[0:00] Hello, friends. Welcome to another episode of Tell Us a Good Story. Today, we continue with part two of our conversation with our friends, Jeremy Hartman and Steph’s sister, Katie Keller-Schnitzer. You guys, if you haven’t listened to episode 225 already, you might want to go back and listen to that one first. In this episode, we discuss the challenges that Steph and I are having as sports parents. As you will hear, we are doing our best to ramp down the intensity when it comes to our kids and youth sports. However, we still have some rough moments. It’s like, sorry, kids. You were born into a sports family. Your parents were athletes. Your entire family are sports fans. That’s what we do. Yes. But why do Katie and I both have to challenge your son, who is nine years old, by the way, to prove to him that we are both still better than him at baseball? Oh, you guys, it’s so bad. We need help. We need help. As always, we can’t wait for you to hear this very fun conversation with Jeremy Hartman and my sister, Katie Keller-Schnetzer. I’m Kevin and I’m Stephanie and during our marriage we have dealt with an electrocution, a brain tumor, brain surgery, then doctors telling us that children were not in our future, followed by miscarriage, and then Kevin’s cancer diagnosis. However today we live a life completely healed and restored with three healthy children who doctors said were not possible and we’re here to tell stories that inspire, give hope, and brighten your day. Welcome to Tell Us A Good Story.

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[2:18] All right, Steph. Let’s talk about sports parenting challenges that we’ve had. Okay. All right. So I feel like, besides watching our kids wrestle, I feel like you are probably more intense with sports than I am right now with watching our kids. Yes, I am. So here’s the thing. When we have our kids in a sport that we have played, the kids can’t get away with anything because we see things. Yeah. Right? So they can’t get away with it. Whereas with like wrestling or soccer, which we’ve never played before, don’t have a clue. It’s like, man, best of luck. look, I can’t give you any guidance on this at all. Like we’re YouTubing videos of like wrestling and like trying to help them and teach them moves. But yeah, we’re pretty clueless on it. So in basketball this year, first off, Jeremy is the athletic director and gym coach. I almost said gymnastics coach. That’s amazing. That would be one of the biggest mischaracterizations of all time.

[3:17] Oh my gosh. Can you please start wearing track suits? yeah i’m not gonna do that shoot so think about it during basketball season this year our daughter emmy was on the basketball team the basketball team at the school is sixth seventh and eighth graders and the team was phenomenal they were very good absolutely phenomenal so i didn’t know how i could help out or whatnot and so one of the things that you need help with the most that nobody volunteers for is the scorekeeper for each of the games. So I started doing that. And Jeremy saw me kind of tensing up watching the games, right? When our daughter would get in. And Jeremy, do you remember some of the advice

[3:57] that you gave me there at the scores tables? Because Jeremy is doing the scoreboard and I am doing the book with another parent from the other team. Yes. We’re sitting side by side and mostly just having a good time and observing life as it happens in front of us. And then Emmy gets into the game and just, yeah, Kevin definitely changes his, his persona a little bit. Um.

[4:19] I wouldn’t say intense necessarily. I did think I was going to have to kick Steph or Katie out of a game just from noise. But I really, I thought you guys did a great, like going into the season. I thought you did a great job. I really didn’t, mostly didn’t notice you, which is a compliment in this case. Yes. At any rate, when Emmy would be in the game, yes, Kevin would just be very, I would say critical is the word I would use.

[4:42] And so one time he told me, oh man, after that game the other night, I mean, I gave her the business of the car and I told her, you can’t do this. You can’t do this. You gotta do this. and we’ll share that story here in a second. Yeah, we are. So my advice was very simple. I give this to a lot of parents. And I just said, Kevin, after the game, why don’t you just see Emmy and just say, hey, I really enjoyed watching you play. And leave it at that. That’s all you say. He looked at me like I had seven eyeballs from another planet. Have you met us? Yeah. I was like, I’m just telling you, for the longevity of your relationship with your daughter, I just say you enjoyed watching her play. That is very good advice. That’s very positive. that is that’s good advice for other families not for you so positive that is what i told him yes here’s what happened okay it was the first game of the year and jeremy here scheduled our school to play a very good very good school i think it was columbus school for girls yep that team we walked in the gym and it looked like we’re playing the varsity team i thought at minimum i thought it was their jv yes i mean they were big and then here we have six something eighth graders and you’re like, are we at the right game? Right. That is like, this is another level. So that was the only game that our team lost the entire season. And we lost by two for the record. We hung with them. We made it a game. So absolutely. So when you start playing this game, it’s like, man, this is another level here. Like this is some serious competition.

[6:05] Well, we lose by two and we get in the car and Emmy’s the first game of the year. Okay. Emmy is upset because she didn’t get to play. And so Steph and I started giving her the business. Like you don’t deserve to be playing on the court. You absolutely do not deserve it. So we gave her reality, I guess. So then the next game we played a normal team. All right. And we’re up by however many and Emmy got in the game. And so i’m watching this and we get in the car after the game and i’m like how do you think you did and our daughter felt like she played very well she is very confident she thought she did a great job okay steph and i again former athletes former basketball players ourselves i played a little bit in college dabbled in it i dabbled in it don’t brag but yeah is it how northern i had a different opinion so i go emmy let me ask you okay you went in there and you played however many minutes how many points did you have zero how many rebounds did you get zero how many assists do you have zero how many fouls did you commit zero how many turnovers did you have zero so what did you do i go you just ran around the court and then she was like dad but i played good i’m like no no no just because you’re running around the court doesn’t It doesn’t

[7:24] mean you’re doing anything. And then Steph’s like, you did nothing!

[7:31] I’m like, okay, man. She came in with a hammer. You did nothing. I’m like, okay, maybe it’s time for us to back off a little bit here.

[7:43] But I enjoyed watching you play. I’m so glad I wasn’t present. That’s a little bit hard. The next game is when I’m talking to Jeremy and Jeremy’s like, hey, here’s what I think you should do. I think when you get in the car, y’all, you should say, I really enjoyed watching you play tonight. That’s it. I’m like, but Jeremy. And you’re like, no, seriously, for the relationship, you should probably do that. I just, yeah, I just, I guess I have this sense that you should have a goal in mind going into a season. What’s our goal for the season? And I think your goal was Amy’s going to play in the WNBA.

[8:20] She is Caitlin Clark. As a realist, I feel like that’s probably not going to happen for most people. Yeah. And I just think that you want your daughter to talk to you when she’s an adult. And so I just would tamper it down a little bit. Go ahead. Okay. Full disclosure. What I’ve learned with Emmy. Emmy doesn’t like basketball. We love basketball. Emmy loves tennis. She does a great job with tennis. She loves softball. She does a great job with softball. She could not care less about basketball. And it showed. Like I said, she doesn’t even know where she’s going on the court. She still didn’t know the plays. And I found out during practices, she would leave and go do tutoring for math. Or she would do something called gabouret, which was like this dinner theater with acting that she loves to do. She would leave practice and go to that. How do you think that’s set with us? How dare you get math tutoring? You should be learning these basketball plays. Which one of these things is going to help you in life? Hey, your dad’s a CPA. He can teach you math. Yeah. You need to learn these basketball plays. But he clearly cannot teach you basketball. Jeremy, we actually apologized to Coach Glover. Like, hey, sorry. That’s not going to happen again. She is not going to practice.

[9:37] We actually did that. She will not get better at math at all costs.

[9:42] Oh, poor Emmy. God love her. So at the end of this year, she’s like, Mom, you don’t think I have to do it again next year, do you? And I’m like, your dad really wants you to. And she’s like, please, Mom, please don’t make me do basketball. again this year. So I think we have it where we’re going to focus on tennis and softball so she doesn’t have to do it again.

[10:04] All right, Steph, I’m going to test you again here. What is your favorite book of all time? Obviously, it’s the Bible, Kevin. Yes. Nailed it. Very good. This time you didn’t say the book we wrote called You Met Her Where. But it’s still a really good book. That is true. And it would make a great gift for friends or relatives on their birthday or for Christmas. Friends, you can order your copy of our book titled, You Met Her Where? At kevinandsteph.com. And we will make sure to personally sign a copy for you or whoever you want. And as always, thank you for listening to Tell Us a Good Story.

[10:35] Oh, that’s so funny. Okay, so then we get to tennis season, right? And the tennis at the school is co-ed, right? And tennis is probably going to be her sport. She has done really well. So she ends up being co-captain of the team as a sixth grader. She ends up at one point being the number one singles and shows she alternated between number one singles number two singles during the year which ends up meaning she ends up playing a boy every single match i don’t think she ever played a girl one time during the season end up being a boy with singles yeah probably an older boy and probably yeah you’re probably right it was either eighth grade or seventh grade every time that’s true so she had a disadvantage right there against d1 schools big schools right you weren’t playing against christian schools it was against like Reynoldsburg, Newark. Yeah, mostly public schools, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so the first few matches she was losing and she would be up, I’m making this up, but it would be like, she would be up three to two and then end up losing six to three or eight to three, okay? And I’m like, what is going on here? Those car rides had to be tough. So.

[11:42] So by the third match, Jeremy, I’m going over and I’m talking to her in between points. Come to find out you’re not supposed to do that you’re not allowed to do that i haven’t gotten trouble so by the fifth match emmy is starting to turn it around okay and she’s starting to beat these boys so the very first match was against a kid in newark and she lost eight to two she’s playing in the fifth match ends up playing the same boy and beats and they only played to six she beat him six to three yes so during that match the coach came to our coach complained about me going over to Emmy and giving tips. Stop it. Yes. And so I laughed and I told the coach, I’m like, okay, here was the tip I gave our daughter. I went over when it was four to three and I said, Emmy, this is typically when you get tired. This is typically when in the past it is flipped where you’re up and then you kind of get gassed and you lose the momentum. Here’s what I want you to think. What would your mom do right now?

[12:44] Dig deep. I said, I said, I want you to channel your inner mama right now. What would your mom do right now? She would go out there and she would finish this match. And so Emmy laughed. She’s like, okay, I’m gonna go do it. And so she was up four to three and then one, six to three. Stop. So that was the advice I gave her, right? That the other coach went over and said, please have him stop. Okay. Yeah. Please have this gentleman removed from the premises. Okay. But during the first two to three matches when Emmy was trying to really be competitive and try to figure this out, she lost eight to six to a boy at one of these big schools. We get in the car and Steph’s like, you know what? I’m upset that Emmy was not more upset when she lost.

[13:28] Steph was upset because Emmy walked it off within five minutes. She was fine. Her mom was not fine. So Steph was upset with our daughter because she got over because she was fine. Yes. Yeah within five minutes. She’s like I thought she should have been more upset about losing to that boy.

[13:47] Eight to six, and she did. She should have been out for blood.

[13:49] She should have eyed him in the parking lot. Am I making myself stuff? You’re not, and it sounds so bad. I’m very competitive. I just, it just sounds really bad right now. When you say it out loud. When you say it out loud for my sixth grader. When you speak the truth, it’s bad. It’s bad. It’s tough. So bad. So there’s a few matches Steph couldn’t make, and then you made the very last one, okay? Yes. You come over, and immediately, Steph doesn’t even say hello to her mother who’s there, Sarah doesn’t say hello to me. Just goes, makes a beeline to the fence that Emmy’s on.

[14:21] Grabs the fence and is like shaking it. Like, come on, Emmy. You get this. You get this. All right. Second serve, Emmy. Second serve. And I come over. I’m like, Steph, please stop. Please stop. You’re not. I have learned that you’re not supposed to do this. Right? You’re not supposed to be. And so you are zeroed in on her daughter. You could not. I mean, everyone’s behind you. And you don’t have a care in the world. No. You are laser focused. Yes, I was. And so we have to calm you down more than me. yes at this point so speaking of shaking fences okay i want to talk i want to pivot here and i want to talk about you katie because your son played travel baseball this past year and the final game i logged on to game changer which is an app that you can watch the games being streamlined and follow along all right so i logged in to watch this as our house

[15:10] while i’m working out in the garage, okay? And the game gets, I think, tied in the last inning, all right? And all of a sudden, and by the way, I don’t know if you realize this.

[15:20] Everything you say in your mom, we can hear through Game Changer. We’re not that close to the camera. I know, this is so bad. It’s either you’re behind the backstop or you’re in left field. It doesn’t matter. We can hear every word you and your mom says, okay? Good words and bad words as well. I never use language. which I’m always positive, just loud. So they tie the game up and all of a sudden the fence is shaking like crazy with the phone. It’s like, and you hear this woman here going crazy and you see the fence shaking, shaking, shaking, shaking, shaking, where it shakes the camera to go behind of the fence peg. Yeah. And so now you can barely see anything. You just see the metal, the metal fence. You can’t see any of the game. So now it’s like, okay, now it’s audio. Is there a two-way voice thing where you’re screaming, Katie?

[16:06] We can’t. Fix the camera. I wish. You can’t see anything. so katie can you please explain kind of what happens during those games oh shoot okay so so let me let me just tell the rest of that story so the other team was loud like from inning one they were loud and our fans were like you know what challenge accepted you know what we can be loud too so we turned it up okay are you sure that’s what happened yes Yes, this is my story. I know. Could it be, because I’ve seen this happen in the past, where one fan base is loud?

[16:42] And then the other team, who’s not typically loud, is like, oh, okay, that’s how we roll. And then they ramp it up. So could it be the cowbells that I hear from your team, they hear that, and then they hear you and your mom and maybe some other fans are like, oh, okay, so that’s how this game’s going to roll. And then they ramp it up. Potentially, but not in this case, because this was their home field. Okay. So they expected to win. They expected to win the entire thing. So we come in and in inning one, they were just like, oh, heck no. We’re just going to be louder. And I was like, you will not. You will not. So what happens is the game’s going like back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. There’s six innings. Top of the sixth, we tie it. Sam is bases loaded and he’s up. And I was just like, I’m not going to make it. I’m not going to make it. Dying. Because I was just like, this is what we’re made for. This moment, right? Put me in there. I want to hit. I want to be on the field so bad right now. So I’m losing my mind. He ends up walking.

[17:54] Walks as good as a hit, buddy. Walks as good as a hit, baby. Yes, it is. So it goes into extra innings. I am losing my dad gone mind. So what ends up happening is another teammate hit a double to win the game because the next team didn’t score, right? So we win the game. I am shaking the fence so violently that it messes up the camera. Nobody could see it. So nobody saw the final play of the game. So just for listeners, there is a phone that is in an accessory, right? Like a little box that is attached to the backstop, attaches to that. You’re shaking the backstop fence, which then messes up the phone, where now the phone camera is behind of the bar on the fence, so we just see metal. We just see metal. So the very next day, Mike was like, Kate, gosh, this was an amazing hit by Jax. You can’t even see it on the replay, because some moron was shaking the fence.

[19:01] And I was like, geez, I wonder who did that. That was so unfortunate. Like, can’t people just watch the game? And I don’t know if he was trying to be nice. Like he didn’t, it never crossed his mind. Like this could have been you. He had to have seen me. I don’t know. I was like an animal that was like hanging on the fence and shaking it. Like I was trying to escape. And so like I said, I think that was just one of those moments where he was trying to be nice to me. and just kindness, a moron. But, oh, you guys, I lost it. So I had to apologize to everyone on the team. Like, I’m really sorry to his mom and dad that you guys missed that really incredible moment in your child’s life.

[19:47] You’re going to send that out to all your family, that video clip. Sorry. Sorry, none of you are going to have that memory, that treasured memory on film. So it became a thing, though, probably midway through the season, the dads came up to me in one of the tournaments and they were like, Kate, we’ve got an idea. We are going to start filming you every time Sam bats because it’s so funny. And we’re going to film you and then we’re going to make millions of dollars on YouTube by just showing you how ridiculous you are. And then we’re going to sell apparel in your name, and we’ll give you a cut of it. And I was like, great. And they were like, we’re going to call it Hype Mom, and it’s going to be awesome. So they taped me watching Sam Bat a few times. And I was like, oh, dear God, is that what I do? And the couple that I saw, they were like, actually, you were kind of calm. What? You guys. Guys, because I just… Can we look at this now on YouTube? No, I’m sure it’s gone forever. So you took your phone and just smashed it against the… Against the fence. Dugout?

[21:00] Joke’s on you, y’all. Don’t mind me. I’m just over here searching hype mom.

[21:10] Steph, what is one of the most asked questions we get about Tell Us a Good Story? Do I really get that excited? Besides that one. Oh, how do we get all these incredible guests? Correct. And some of our best conversations have been with guests who our listeners have reached out to us and said, you should talk to this person. To name just a few, Nick Vujicic, Coach Tom Ryan, Carol Matico were all recommendations from our listeners. So if there’s someone you would like us to interview and think they might be a great fit for Tell Us a Good Story, please let us know at kevinandsteph.com. You don’t even have to personally know them. True, but do me a favor. Before you submit their names, please make sure they are still alive. That has actually happened, and it is super hard for me to find their contact information. But regardless, thank you for listening to Tell Us a Good Story.

[21:57] So how are the car rides then if your son has a bad game? Is it you or is it your husband or both? Or you say quiet. Do you ever yell, you did nothing? Is that, do you ever? Those are guilty eyes she’s got. She said something. No, no. And there was, there were, oh. So it actually just happened the other night. I was, I was really quiet. And Sam was like, mom, are you mad? And I was like, no. And I was like, buddy, I am just thinking about something else. I was totally, I was mad. Why am I wasting money on these private instructors for you to watch a strike three? You didn’t swing the bat one time. What a moron.

[22:43] Yeah, but I was like, oh, that was a gut check. Because he was like, mom, are you mad? Like, he had no idea that I truly was mad. And I was upset about his performance. But he was just like, I was like, no. That was so nice of you, though. Thank you. But no, Mike is really good. Mike’s better. Whenever we get in the car, he’s always like, OK, buddy, what are some things that you think you did well tonight? What are some things that you think you could improve upon? pond. Now that man could give some advice to some people at the table here. I usually chime in on the end. Don’t forget you. You didn’t charge the ball. Don’t forget that time you didn’t dive in the outfield. So, cause here’s what happened. Here’s what happened. There was a point in time. So Sam didn’t always play center field. He typically paid in the infield. When he joined this team, they had him playing outfield and he just wasn’t used to it. I played center field, old Hartman. You should probably know that before I continue with this story.

[23:42] Didn’t you have an outfield? An outfielder’s duel. You versus your son and your husband was hitting line drives to you. Yes. Yes. A hundred percent. Because I didn’t feel like he was putting in max effort. And I was like, buddy, this is the outfield. You might get one hit a game, right? You have to be ready. If you don’t make the play, you don’t get another chance, right? Like it is make or break every time you get a ball. So I was like, I challenge you to an outfielder stool. I’m going to crush you. You don’t stand a chance. You will lose. And then you will owe me ice cream afterwards.

[24:20] And he was like, what do I get if I win? I was like, well, first of all, there is no chance on God’s green earth. You’re going to win. So you can have whatever you want. And he was like, I want a Nintendo Switch. I was like, I’ll give you whatever you want. Fine. Nintendo Switch. Your son is nine years old, by the way. Yeah, he’s nine. As a gym teacher of him, he is a pretty good athlete. He’s a good baseball player. He is. And yeah, so up until that point, I was just like, I am going to make this kid just crush him, right? Like, I’m just going to take him to the cleaners. Well, at one point, I remember you being like, now, sis, do I give him some? Right. Do I pull back? Yes. Do I pull back and do I give him a few easy catches or easy plays? Do I give him a few points? Yeah. And you said, no, absolutely not. You will not. Why would you do that?

[25:08] Why are we building self-esteem right now? Help his confidence a little bit. No, no, no. You do not build him up. You do not do it. No. So we do this outfielder’s duel. Mike is just launching balls into the outfield. And it was based on a point system. So a certain amount of points for a catch, certain amount of points for the throw into the infield. If anybody knows me, they know. You’ve got a cannon. You have no control of the cannon, but you have a cannon for an arm. Yes. So that part was unfortunate because our catcher was Alex. Who is seven years old. Who’s seven. Yeah. I mean, he’s eight now, but yeah, I was throwing it a little hard for him.

[25:52] Sam was making sure he was making a good throw. I was just launching it as hard as I could. If Alex caught it, great. If he didn’t, I was yelling, you should have caught that.

[26:03] That is points for me because he should have caught that ball. Katie, that reminds me. Trying to shatter both kids’ confidence at the same time. All right. Sorry, Kevin. Go ahead. That reminds me of you playing dodgeball

[26:14] last year at the school, at the mother-son dodgeball event. Okay. And again, you have a cannon for an arm. And so Katie here is trying to hit the kid in the back of the gym, throws it and hits It’s the kindergarten. There’s five feet in front of drills, right? They’re like, oh, the kid like drops on the ground. Oh, sorry. Sorry. And then it’s like five minutes later. Same thing. You try to drill a kid far back there and you drill a kid five feet away from you again and just drop them. I sure did. I felt real bad about that. And I apologize. She did always apologize. And I sat down. You did sit down. That was the rule. That was the rule. I sat down. Did you apologize to Alex after criticizing him? Oh, no. Good question. No, this was different. There was a Nintendo switch on the line. So here’s what was happening. We are on a high school sized field playing the outfield. It was a huge outfield that we had to cover. So Mike is launching these balls, right? Like he’s hitting up 200 feet, 250 feet. He can’t control where he’s hitting. So all of my balls are literally going to right field and left field. And I am, oh, I am max effort. I am sweating. I am exhausted. Sam’s balls were going right to him.

[27:31] I was getting so mad. So mad. So we had to change the point system because of that. But anywho, the first round, Sam won. And I was like, oh, shoot. And you thought, I’m not 21 anymore. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, okay, next round, new rules. We are going to call this round the max effort round because I knew I could win max effort. Max effort. It is diving. It is like sacrificing your body for the ball. Okay. Right? Yes. So the very first hit that Mike launches in my direction, I scorpioned. Oh my gosh But I freaking caught it Yes you did Yes I did So you dove and pulled over Yeah It was so good Oh my gosh It was so good I still tell the boys Do you remember that time? Do you remember that time? That I did that? And I went to the chiropractor The next day Do you remember that?

[28:29] Yeah I got up And I was like Oh I hope nothing’s broken But the next round Yes max effort round I obviously won That round We called it a tie Saved a lot of money So he got half a switch? No No, we called it a tie, and I bought ice cream. Ah! There you go. Lovely. I said, everybody wins here. But after that, his effort in the outfield. Oh, my gosh. Amazing. So much better. It was amazing. Because he got beat by his mom. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I think that was a good approach, the duel. Not the criticism as much as just put the duel itself and say, look, I have lived a lot of life. I have had two children, and I still can take you down. I still got you. And in a couple of years, you won’t be able to anymore. I know. Yeah, probably next year. If you like what you hear, please tell someone about us. As soon as this episode is over, go tell your spouse, your closest friend, a parent, a co-worker, or share one of our posts on social media. However, if you don’t like what you’re hearing, please do not. Don’t tell anyone. Don’t tell anyone. Don’t tell anybody. Just disregard this message.

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[29:54] And they haven’t done it in a while. And so they did it again, and he smashed her. And so he looks at me, and he’s like, Dad, your turn. Wait, which kid is this? This is Clark. This is my oldest. He is almost 14. This is about two weeks ago. And I mean, if I’m being honest, I’m getting older. It’s close. My left calf has been giving me fits. You are not 100%. I did have the thought, uh-oh, what if I lose? Right. And so Cora, my daughter, gets the phone out. She’s going to video this thing. I’m like, oh, gosh, I really got to win this race. And thank the Lord, I pulled it out. You did. I did win at the halfway point. So you run to the slide, you touch it as you come back. I was only about a step ahead. And in my mind, I’m thinking, his stop start’s got to be better than mine. It takes me a while to get the momentum going. Did you dive? Oh, no, no, no. It’s a cement patio. So did you dive? I had about three or four strides. It was a no. I had about three or four strides, but it was, yeah, it was like, oh, man, I might lose this race. And by next year, I mean, I’m a year older and he’s a year older. That’s a big problem for me. You’re going to be breaking out that track singlet.

[31:11] Oh, my gosh. I do want to see that video if you bring that out. Yes, I do. Cora needs a video that way. I just want to keep you, and I am not a schnetzer. So none of these things you guys talk about will ever happen. I will humbly take my loss at some point. No, no, no. I’ll move on. That just reminded me of a story, though. What happened Memorial Day weekend this year? The week of Memorial Day weekend, everyone is coming over to our house. And I don’t know how it happened. I think your husband texted out something good that Sam had done. He had a really good game or something. And then I made the comment like, man, I might not be able to strike him out anymore. Your husband then was like, I bet you can’t. Right. And then I think you responded with, he’s getting really good. He’s getting better. So immediately I’m like, okay, challenge accepted.

[31:57] Kelly. So they come over and I’m like, Sam, just so you know, I’m pitching to you before we leave. So I set out the rebounder that we have, the baseball rebounder. I get out the wiffle balls and get out a bat. Okay. So I was out there. We were throwing. He was pitching to me and he was like, he’s got a really good arm. So I was like, all right, time to step up to the plate, son. And so we have music going i’ve got music going i’ve got soldier boy out there i mean we’re like i am ramping this up like all right let’s see and so i i don’t know we weren’t at 45 feet but i still i’m using a wiffle ball okay so i had warmed up as well so i i was ready to groove it in there and so i just threw gas right past him jeremy and i’m like i smoked him and i’m I’m like, yeah, he’s not on my level just yet. I’ve got at least another year. And so I came over, I knocked on the window and was like, y’all, you might wanna see this. I’m about to strike out your boy.

[32:55] It’s so, so I think I threw a change up and he was used to constant gas, right? So I threw him a change up and he swung like way out in front of it. Strike him out. Okay. Like one of the coolest moments of my life the past couple of years. All right. Wow. So the bar’s low. I start running around the yard, dancing to soldier boy and was like not there yet. So then we reverse it. Now he’s going to pitch to me. Okay. Okay, so I let him warm up for a couple minutes. All right, you good? You ready to do this? All right, let’s do it, Uncle Kevin. First pitch drills me in the back.

[33:34] And so I throw the bat down and I chase him around the yard.

[33:40] So he left. Yes. And so then got back up and he pitched to me. And Jeremy, I jacked it over the house.

[33:49] Jacked it over the house. and wouldn’t you know i ran around imaginary bases around our yard oh you sure did you celebrate and yes dance along to whatever music was on at the time and the only regret i have is that we didn’t get on video that i could show him what that moment was like because a year from now two years from now yeah it may be a little different yeah well but then sam turned around and struck out mike didn’t he oh that’s right and so then that’s right because kevin had such a wonderful example, did the exact same thing that Kevin had done and ran around the yard. Sam strikes out his dad and then does the exact celebration that I did to him 20 minutes earlier. They’re in their car ride home. Mike’s like, Katie, are you mad about something? No. Nope, I’m just thinking. Thinking about something totally separate from you striking out. Embarrassing our family name. That’s okay. You saw what Uncle Kev did. Exactly. Friends, we want to encourage you to please follow us wherever you listen to this, whether it’s on the Apple Podcasts app, iHeartRadio, Spotify, or one of the other platforms. You guys, it’s completely free. And while you’re there, feel free to give us a rating or a nice review. Thank you for listening to Tell Us a Good Story.