[0:00] Hello, friends. Welcome to another episode of Tell Us a Good Story. Here is part two of our conversation with a former teacher of mine from Bloom Carroll High School, Coach Larry Blackstone. Oh, you guys, it was such an honor for us to be able to talk to Coach Blackstone. In this episode, it includes Coach talking about what Kevin was actually like in high school. Which was pretty funny. I loved it. Coach also shares a few of the hilarious things he did to motivate kids on his old football team. And some of the things he did as a coach that he absolutely would not be able to do in today’s world as a coach. You guys, this was so much fun. Here’s part two of our conversation with coach Larry Blackstone. Thanks again, coach. We love you. I’m Kevin. And I’m Stephanie. And during our marriage, we have dealt with an electrocution, a brain tumor, brain surgery, then doctors telling us that children were not in our future, followed by miscarriage, and then Kevin’s cancer diagnosis. However, today we live a life completely healed and restored with three healthy children who doctors said were not possible. And we’re here to tell stories that inspire, give hope, and brighten your day. Welcome to Tell Us a Good Story.

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[1:42] Well, I do have to ask you this. I appreciate you listening to Tell Us a Good Story. I’m blown away that you’ve shared this with your brother and your family and all that. When you listen to this, Coach, do you ever think I think that’s not the kid I remember from high school. I do. Do you? Oh, this is not him. Was he a dorky? Was he a little dorky? Hey, he was. I heard he was shy. Shy, not a nerd. Yeah. Smart. I mean, real smart. And, you know, the girls had an eye for him, it seemed like. And then I hear him on this. He’s laughing and having fun. And I asked him one time. I said, he admitted, yeah, he’s changed a lot. In a good way. But I tried to recruit them hard, I’m telling you. I wanted to coach them, but never got that chance.

[2:30] I always joke around saying that I’m the better athlete, but Kevin is a stud athlete. To this day, he is still a stud athlete. He’s just good at everything. It amazes me. Thank you. He was smart, and he’s been highly successful here, not just with this podcast, but his job and life and family and all that. Thank you. I wanted to get your perspective because I’m curious because you knew me well before I even met Steph. You saw me as an introvert, not a confident guy at all back i will tell you one thing you’ve moved up with your wife i agree because the last one i saw you date in high school hey i’m thinking what is he doing.

[3:11] He’s way better than that so he’s good so with coaching back in the day you were probably a fiery type guy i’m assuming yes do you have any stories of getting unsportsmanlike penalties of yelling at parents, of getting kicked out of a game, anything like that, coach? I was a head of baseball coach at one time. Okay. I did get kicked out of that game. Of a baseball game? A baseball game. But football, I never got kicked out. I got some penalties. Didn’t you set some kids’ equipment on fire, something coach? Yes, I did. Okay. Please share that. Give some context. Right. Well, I lasted 54 years in coaching. In coaching. And today, I’d have no chance of lasting a year.

[4:01] Yeah. This kid was in West Virginia, and this really good player, really good. I won’t mention his name, but he was one of the star players on the team. And they had been losing, too. But this guy, if he plays, we’re going to be better. And about the third game, he came in and quit. Really? For no reason. I mean, he was our star running back. He was carrying the ball. He had no reason to quit. Okay, so this is on Friday night. So Saturday I go to the field house there and get all his equipment Helmet shoulder pads everything he touched or wore and put it out in the little stack outside the field house and Tried to burn it.

[4:42] You know, it’s hard to burn a pair of shoulder pads and, So I was trying to, I saw there was a lawnmower in the field house there, just one of them push mowers. So I got it tipped over the towel. To try to cut it up? No, try to get the gasoline on the equipment. I was pouring the gas out of the lawnmower onto the equipment. Then I let it, and it went up in flames. So I got it all burned up. But anyway, the next morning in the office, principal. Shocker. You’re going to have to pay for that equipment. I just told him I said nobody will ever wear that equipment again so you know you’re making it you’re taking a stand on stuff now today they wouldn’t they wouldn’t look on that kindly they wouldn’t appreciate that no no no no there’s more to it than that would you say you had that old school like you remind me of like Bobby Knight.

[5:31] That’s who you remind me I don’t think he I like Bobby Knight I love Bobby Knight I wouldn’t say he was yelling and carrying on like Bobby Knight oh so you weren’t like a yeller yes I’m a yeller but I don’t cuss I’ve never cussed at a kid at home or whatever, I can tell you. Well, with you being a yeller, isn’t there one time, Coach, where you yelled back at a parent or something? Yeah, I did. Again, where was I? I was someplace in the first scrimmage. New coach, first scrimmage. This guy yells out of the stands. And I didn’t even look back. Well, I did look back. I just said, shut up.

[6:03] You yelled shut up back to the stands. Yeah, there’s just a scrimmage. There weren’t very many people there, so everybody heard it. Okay. And they think, you know, this guy, you better not be messing with him. So I just yelled at him, and I said, hey, you shut up or whatever. So after the game was over, I walked down to the concessions where they were all treating the kids with hot dogs and drips. Okay. And our AD was there, and I said, I saw this guy hanging on the fence down there, real big, strong-looking guy, big. And I asked the AD, I said, who’s that guy there? He said, that’s the guy you yelled at. I said, oh, okay. Had I looked up there a little closer, I might not have yelled at him. I said, how did he get so big? And he said, he just got out of prison.

[6:49] So that was the end of that deal.

[6:53] What about a time coach? And I know some of these stories, right? No, there are. But have you ever lied to a team to try to motivate them on something? Because there’s one story that I’m pretty sure is a lie, and it was about a dog. I remember hearing this. It’s about your dog that died, Curtis. This isn’t a lie, though. This is true. Yeah, this is true. Are you sure? I’m positive. Okay. Can you tell us, Steph, that story? Yeah, I can. Steph, I had this dog, Curtis. Okay. No, I named him Mike. because Mike Curtis was this linebacker for the Bonamore Colts a long time ago. And he was this guy that you’ve seen it on film where the guy would run down, grab the football, and run off the field. And Mike Curtis hit him and knocked him out. Oh, geez. So that’s my ball. Oh, my gosh. So my dog was tough, so I wanted to name him Mike. Uh-huh. I took him to the vet, too, and found out he wasn’t Mike. So I had to name him. Wait, you didn’t figure that out yourself? I had to name him Curtis. So I named him Curtis. So anyway, I told this team the story, and this is true, too. He was a beagle, and he was out barking and chasing rabbits and all behind the house. And it was kind of cool, but one night, he wouldn’t come in. So I went in the house, laid down on the couch, and was sleeping. And the phone rang, and my neighbor had called and said, Hey, your dog’s laying out in the middle of the road.

[8:21] And I looked out the window there, and there he was, dead, of course. And if you’ve ever had a pet, I mean, that’s how I felt. Heartbreaking. Anyway, I went out, picked him up, took him in the backyard there, dug a hole. And when I flipped him over, I saw something was in his mouth. It was a piece of rubber. He had bit the tire. Yeah. Now, he said, I’m lying. This is a true story. This piece of rubber was in his mouth. And he was this is this is a tough dog now he bit the tire he got killed but he bit the tire so i’m telling this football team at halftime we’re behind it was that bloom carol by the way that’s how i know this story we were behind i said hey at least go out there and bite somebody, hit somebody you know what i’m saying because curtis i mean you know he went he he got killed but hey this is your halftime speech halftime yeah we were playing canal winchester by the way okay Did it impact the game at all? It did. I think it really did. I used it after that a couple times because it was true, and it kind of fired them up a little bit. Because I remember hearing this story, and I was like, there’s no way that’s true. Well, it is true. No way. It’s true. Okay, is there any time you made stuff up, Coach? No. No? No, I don’t think so. Never made anything up to motivate a team? No. There’s enough true stuff out there to motivate anybody.

[9:43] Well, the kids and students adored you, right? Absolutely adored you administration may not they didn’t but the the students certainly did i was all for the players and if it came between a administrator or a kid i went with the kid yeah so can you talk about the time you were trying to teach a kid about blocking a punt oh and what happened when the other team changed things around from what you had seen on film this was at uh limestone uh no there’s a kentucky christian college okay i was special team guy too and i was we were working on punt block okay and they had the three guys deep three big guys okay three bigger guys in front of the in front of the punter okay so i had this one guy strongest guy on the team wasn’t a starter wasn’t a you know but he was tough and he i said all i want you to do is go right up the middle hit that one guy right in front of the punter and drive him right into the kicker okay and we practiced that with a blow bag and all that okay and he lined that boy It dug in deep, you know, and they snapped the ball and there he goes. Right into this guy. Well, either they changed that guy that we thought was there. Because we saw him on film. He’s not very good. Okay. So they had to put a new guy in there. And this guy was good.

[11:01] And he hit my boy. Jones was his name. Hit him. And, I mean, he just went flat. I mean, out cold. Knocked him out. Knocked him out cold. They had to wait until he came to him. And then they carried him off. He was out cold. He thought that guy was going to be real soft, you know. And he wasn’t. He wasn’t? No, he was the meanest guy they had. How bad did you feel? Because you knew what happened probably immediately. Yeah, we kind of laughed about it afterwards. Hey, I thought he was dead.

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[12:09] So the last fun fact I have here, Steph, is that Coach, like he said, over 50 years, He coached 15 kids who would go on to play in the NFL. Wow.

[12:21] 15. Yeah. Well, I think it was actually 12 to be exact. But we had two guys playing Super Bowls. Oh, really? Yeah. Jack Della played for the Steelers for five years, played in a couple of Super Bowls. And then we had Larry Riley played for Denver in the 78 Super Bowl. Then I actually had a high school kid, Mike McKibben, that played for the Jets. Okay. They played five years for the Jets, and then most of the other guys were, you know, not star players in the NFL, but they all, you know, had a chance to play in the NFL. And coming from a small college, that’s a fairly good number. You’ve got to be elite to get to that level. Yep. That’s incredible. Would you go watch them? I went to, in fact, Mike McKibben, I just talked to him here the other day. We went to Jet games, saw him. I went to the Steeler practices in some of their games. But I went to practice one time and Jack Lambert was playing for the Steelers, of course, and Jack was on offense and in a practice session. And who was a great running back? Franco Harris. Franco Harris and Rocky Blyer. And Jack was the third guy. Okay. So Jack was playing in the practice, and Lambert was blitzing. Well, Jack hit him in the knees and mowed him down quick. Then I saw Lambert standing over Jack. He was about a foot taller than Jack, too, talking there. So after the practice, I asked Jack, I said, what did that Lambert say to you? He said, if you cut me again, I’m going to kill you.

[13:49] I said, well, I know she didn’t cut him again. So I wondered what was happening. But, yeah, them guys, you know, in the old days. They were serious. Yeah, they were serious. That was their livelihood. Lambert was, like, one of the meanest. Him and Dick Butkus, right? Like the meanest dudes ever in the NFL, it sounds like. No doubt. Well, I have a question. I can’t believe you haven’t gotten to this. In your book, I think it’s the back of the book, it’s you and Barry and Nick Saban. And Nick Saban wrote an endorsement for your book. Yes. So how on earth do you know Nick Saban? Well, we went to college in Fairmont, West Virginia. And believe it or not, Nick Saban’s from Mononga, which is less than a mile from Fairmont. Oh, okay. Terry Bowden is from that area. Rick Rodriguez. Yes. What? Jimbo Fisher. All from Western Virginia. Yeah. And there’s a guy that used to coach for the Southern Cal. What was his name? He’s from that area. They’re all from that area. But Nick Saban’s dad and my college football coach were buddies. Dick Duvall and Nick Saban’s father were real good friends.

[14:48] So Nick Saban was four years younger. He was in high school. We were in college. So he came to our games. At Fairmont State. At Fairmont. And we went to his games on like Thursday night and all that stuff in college. And in fact, when we went down to Alabama, Tessalusa to see Nick about our book, He said, I saw your last game. He was at our last game. He said, my dad and I was at that game. Really? Yeah. And no matter what you think or hear about Nick Saban, he treated us like the secretary said, how do you know him?

[15:19] He gave us tickets for the Bear Bryant Museum, gave us a golf cart to drive around campus, the stadium and all that. He treated us, I mean, and he was a busy guy. Yes. And he took time. Out of his schedule. Out of his schedule to treat us because we were from Fairmont. So, he was at your final game, the one that was in the national championship. Did he agree that Barry should be the MVP of that game, too? I’d say he probably did. I didn’t ask him. He probably did. Everybody else did.

[15:49] So, with that fun fact, Steph, of course, he coached over 50 years, but he didn’t just coach football like he’s mentioned, right? You also coached wrestling. Yeah. Can you tell Steph the story of you traveling to a wrestling meet and getting pulled over at some point with kids by the local police yeah we’re in the car driving from hillsborough in fact to a meet on saturday okay and it was early in the morning it was dark so you know we had our lights on on the police pull us over uh lights flashing all that i have two or three wrestlers with me and um i thought what in the world’s going on here so uh you know i rolled the wind and I started to open the door, and they said, hey, hands on the dash.

[16:32] I said, they had their guns drawn. Really? What? With the kids in the car? Yeah, yeah. Someone had a car similar to what I was driving, and it robbed a bank or something. Okay, so they were out looking for them. Yeah, they were out looking for this guy, and it wasn’t us, but I mean, hands on the dash, and I mean, my hands went straight for the day. Yeah, they did. The guns drawn, I mean, hey, light flashing to your face, you know, yeah. Kids had a story. Yeah, they had a story, yep. Oh, my gosh. Yep. When was the last time, like, what year did you retire from coaching? Three years ago. Really? You’ve been a coach? That long, yeah. I was going to ask you, would you be able to coach now compared to how it used to be? Like, what have you noticed? The change? Yeah. There was no change in my approach. They said I was grandfathered in. The last job I had, they said, you’ve been grandfathered in. I got away with the same stuff that I did. Really? Yeah. Treated the kids the same way, coached them up hard.

[17:36] We didn’t cuss them out or anything like that. I’ve been around coaches. I’ve done that plenty of times. But we never did. My brother never did it, I know, and I’ve never done it. But one thing that we did, my dad taught me this. Okay. This might be in the book as well. But we had three boys on the farm, and we worked every day. We had a dairy farm. So we milked at four in the morning, four at night. Never stops. My Barry said this the other day. Did you think Dad ever got sick?

[18:04] I said, well, no, I don’t think so. None of us got sick. We worked every day. And do this, do that. You know, sometimes you think, boy, I’m going to tell him someday what I’m really thinking. Yeah. But every day before we went to the house from the barn, he’d say, boys, thanks a lot for helping. Woody. Well, then you couldn’t be mad at him. Right. So every day after practice, wherever I’ve been, every player shook everybody’s hand, every coach’s hand. It gives you a chance after you’ve maybe said something a little mean. Chewed him out a little bit, yeah. Say, hey, Kevin, hang in there. Yeah. You’re doing a good job. Something positive. Shake everybody’s hand. And at the end, we’d yell out 1-11. One meaning that if every guy just did his job and 11 guys did their job, we’d be good. 1-11. We’ll check everybody’s hand. We did it after every practice. Did you? Yeah. Win or lose, after every game, same thing. I always thought that was a good thing, but I learned that from my dad. Yeah. What do you notice the difference between kids now and kids back then? You know what? The truth, I don’t think there’s any difference. Really? No. The kids are the same. I swear they are. I coached them three years ago. What about parents? Well, now they’re a little different. Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the administrators are different.

[19:25] And most of my assistant coaches were different. They told me I was grandfathered in. I could pretty much do. You could light anybody’s shoulder pads on fire you want. I did. I got away with it. I don’t know. I don’t know if I got away with it or not because I had to change jobs a few times.

[19:45] I never changed what I believed in and all that. My coach told me in college, wherever you go, the kids are going to be the same. It’s what you do with them that will make a difference. Let me tell you one story. This might be a little different. I was coaching track too at Hesper, my first job. And we go to the track meet at Greenfield. Okay. And this kid’s running the 400. And he was a good runner and a good player for us in football. But anyway, he’s running the 400. So he gets on the far side of the track. You know, it’s one lap.

[20:18] On the other side, he pulls off, lays down. On the track? Off the track. Off the track. In the grass. And I’m thinking, well, hey, he’s pulled a hamstring. Yeah. So I walk over. I said, what happened? He said, I just quit. I said, what do you mean you quit? You quit right during the – I could not believe this. So, I mean, here I am, 22 years old. Right. From the Raiders and college. Yes. What do you mean you quit? You don’t do that. No, you don’t do that. So, I just left. I walked away from him. So, we go to get on the bus, and there he is coming to get on the bus. I said, what are you doing? He said, I’m getting on the bus.

[20:54] No, you’re not. I said, no, you ain’t getting on this bus. You quit. Now, that might be something you couldn’t get away with today. What do you think? probably not no but i love it but yeah you did so we got back to the school there the dad is where’s uh where’s johnny i said he’s in greenfield he’s in greenfield he quit, And the dad never said anything there either. Really? I never heard any more about it. Wow. I figured that’d be a superintendent visit. Right. Your dad was a superintendent, but hey. He would have sided with you on that one. Oh, he absolutely would. No, the guy quit. Oh my gosh, coach. Is it true? It’s true. I can tell you right now. I talked about how players loved you, right? And you would stick up for your players. I did. Can you tell, Steph, the story about a kid by the name of Jay Wackler? Yeah. And I think it was the principal was trying to get him in trouble or something. Well, he was kind of a… Rough kid. Yeah, rough kid. In fact, he ended up in prison. Did he? Yeah. But this was in high school, and I was in the principal’s office again. And we were looking out the window, and they said, now look down there at that car. That’s Jay Wackler in there. Smoke coming out every window during lunch or something. And I looked, and I thought to myself, that is him. And I said, that don’t look like him.

[22:24] And I kept looking out the window, and they said, no, look. They kept pointing. They were convinced that was him, which it was. But they were trying to convince me it was him. No, that’s not him. That’s not Jay. He wouldn’t do that. He wouldn’t be smoking like that. I know that. I can’t see him. No, right there. No, I can’t see him. I kept moving around the room. Him I said no that’s now did you pull him to the side yes yeah you did I did and he was he was a star player for us he was a college potential player but he got himself in trouble after high school but now he’s good he’s real turn things around he’s really good he married kids oh that’s awesome yeah but he was uh he was in trouble for a while and but right now he’s living a good life so he learned the hard way, I want you to tell me what’s the most important lesson you’ve learned with coaching kids that’s a good question there.

[23:23] Here’s what I believe in if you can get the kids to trust you not like you I know coaches say they have to respect you they don’t have to like you, what’s the difference there I don’t know So if you can get a kid to trust you and you have to prove it this way. And I had to prove it by burning some guy’s equipment and telling some parent to shut up. And tell some kid you’re off the bus. And tell some kid, hey, you quit. Yes. I mean, you have to prove that you’re that you really that they can trust you to be fair. Yeah. And I think I’ve done that as well as I can do it. So I believe in certain things. I believe in honesty and I believe in forgiving, too. And I tried to get my wife to understand that a little better. Same principles. Takes her a little longer. If you like what you hear, please tell someone about us. As soon as this episode is over, go tell your spouse, your closest friend, a parent, a co-worker, or share one of our posts on social media. However, if you don’t like what you’re hearing, please do not. Don’t tell anyone. Don’t tell anyone. Don’t tell anybody. Just disregard this message. Don’t worry about it. Forget about us. Yep. Go on with your merry day. And to get more information about us or our entire catalog of episodes, be sure to check us out at kevinandsteph.com. Thank you for listening to Tell Us a Good Story.

[24:50] All right, final fun fact. Coach here has been married. I don’t know how many years. How many years have you been married now, Coach? 47. 47 years to Debbie, who is here in our house. And she’s hanging out with her children right now, which is very nice and trying to keep them quiet. Yeah, Tate keeps cuddling with her. I keep watching him. He keeps cuddling with Debbie.

[25:08] She’s good with kids. And then his daughter, Jessica, was a year younger than me and went to Bloom-Curl High School. Wonderful, wonderful daughter. Can you tell Steph the story of your first date? That’s the last thing, Coach, I want you to share is the first date with Debbie. She was a school teacher at Lewis County High School. I was the football coach. And they kept saying, hey, this French teacher kept sending me notes about kids, wanting and kids to do it. I thought, well geez. You know, anyway, I said, okay. So finally I said, Let’s go out for dinner. So she lived out in the country. So that was about a 20-mile drive in West Virginia. Right. So we go to this place, and the sign on the outside was like 28 salad dressings. At this restaurant. At this restaurant. Famous for their salad dressings. So I’m not real patient at times. I’m fairly patient now, but not 30 years ago. Not back then, yeah. So anyway, salad dressing. So we ordered my steak and salad and Thousand Island and rolls and drink and so on. So they came to her. Steak. Okay. How do you want to fix? Well, another five minutes. Red. A little bit.

[26:24] Baked potato. Butter on the side. Okay. Salad. Yeah. And then she says, what kind of dressing? And I’m thinking, there’s 28.

[26:34] This is why we’re in here. We like salmon. there’s 28 they have every dressing you could possibly think of pick one pick one yeah so she said well the guy starts you know how they have rattling them off yes well he started alphabetically through the sound of dressing i’m saying hey ranch i yell out ranch.

[26:55] And uh so he wrote ranch down well of course he left well then debbie left oh no oh yeah yeah She left you at the restaurant? Mad. Well, she wasn’t going anyplace because I had the car and the keys. And in those days, there wasn’t no automatic door locks or anything. Oh, yes. I had the key of the car. And it was pouring down in the rain. So I ate mine. I thought she’d go to the restaurant. She’d come back. Well, she never came back. Uh-huh. So I dipped in some of her. Ate her meal, too. Ate some of her meal. Yeah. And then I realized then, well, you know, she’s not coming back. Uh-huh. So I got in the car. I mean, rain has been raining fairly hard. It’s dripping off.

[27:39] So I opened the door up. Well, she got in the back seat. So we drove home with her in the back seat and me in the front. That was our first date. How on earth did you get her talked into going on a second date with you? You know what? I don’t know. I don’t think it was that week. Yeah. Or months, maybe. But eventually she forgave me for that, I guess. In the book, you say, hey, listen, Jesus forgives immediately. Why does it take you seven years to forgive me?

[28:09] I’ve used that. Jesus does. You know, most of the parents and most of the administrators, they don’t forgive instantly. No, they don’t. Jesus forgave instantly. Said, for you know not what you’re doing or something. You know, I mean, hey. Be more like Jesus, right? I wouldn’t be coaching for 54 years if I didn’t forgive. Right. Because Debbie would come home after a game and say, hey, this guy said this, and this guy said that. Oh, I bet. In the stands. Debbie, do not tell me one thing anybody said. I don’t want to hear it. I would have no friends. But if I don’t know what they’re saying. Yes. It helps. That’s true. Because everybody would be talking in the stands. Yeah. I can’t imagine being Debbie. Like, if anybody goes after Kevin, I’m Mama Bear. I am right after. Right. No, do not mess with my husband. Same thing. Like, when he would be the umpire, do not mess with him. I can’t imagine how that woman and your daughter, how they did in the stands. It normally said on the other side. Did they? That’s a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. That’s a very good idea. Yeah. Plus, they heard about everything anyway. A lot of it was true.

[29:14] It wasn’t a huge deal.

[29:17] The only guy that got really mad was my dad. He came to one game, one game. And, you know, when your kids are playing, it’s a little bit tough. But when your kids are coaching, it’s really tough. Yeah. So he lasted one game. Really? Yeah. And he was ready to fight some guy in his pants. So that was the end of that deal. Oh, my gosh. Well, I want to read something here in your book, Coach. It says, I’m writing this book to simply make a difference. I want my life’s work to have an impact that goes beyond me. Well, Coach, your work has gone beyond you. I mean, you’re sitting here with me, someone who you didn’t even coach me, right? I wasn’t one of your former players. And here you are in our home right now recording this. So well done, Coach. Thank you for all that you’ve done. You know how successful a lot of these kids I’ve had like yourself. Look at this house and three kids and wife. Yeah. I mean, I saw a big car out there too.

[30:10] I got a Chevy parked right beside it. Hey, listen. And all these kids I’ve had, I had a guy called last night. highly successful in detroit they’re all over the country really and they’ve all been highly successful yeah i mean all of them as fathers and husbands and now as grandfathers right i mean really proud of all of them really so yes and half of berries gets mixed up with me too and half of mine go with them so yes so we got all kind of people we go someplace i mean i’m sure everybody’s calling you well i love you thank you for coming to our house thank you for doing this. You’re wonderful. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks, Coach. Thank you.

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