Victoria Jackson is an actress, comedienne, and Saturday Night Live alum. If you were a fan of SNL back in the late 80s or early 90s, her distinctive voice will bring back memories! She recently released her first music-comedy album, When I Get to Nashville, which features a cameo from fellow SNL star Rob Schneider.

Victoria was on SNL for six seasons, working alongside some iconic comedians like Dana Carvey, Phil Hartman, and Chris Farley to name just a few. Kevin + Steph play rapid-fire with names to find out if Victoria has any great stories about the people she has performed with. Her stories include her experience working with Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Robin Williams, Adam Sandler, Steve Martin, and so many others.

Her career is just fascinating! Victoria got her big break at the age of 23 when she first performed on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. He then put her on The Tonight Show…TWENTY times!!! So what is scarier…performing your first time in front of Johnny Carson or auditioning for Saturday Night Live?

Can’t wait for you to hear this episode with our new friend, Victoria Jackson.

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Tell Us A Good Story EP202

Former SNL cast member Victoria Jackson shares funny stories about famous comedians and musicians like Robin Williams and Dolly Parton. Tune in for her journey from The Tonight Show to stardom.

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0:00:00 Victoria Jackson’s SNL Days and Big Break
0:01:25 Introduction and Reminder to Subscribe and Share
0:05:47 Victoria’s embarrassing yet super cool mom
0:08:44 Returning to college and earning a master’s degree
0:09:27 Exciting second edition of “You Met Her Where” book
0:12:47 Victoria’s big break on The Tonight Show
0:14:21 Comparing the fear of auditioning for SNL and Carson’s show
0:17:41 The decision to take or turn down a role involving nudity
0:18:19 Most asked question: How do we get incredible guests?
0:19:31 Funny Moments with Steve Martin, Dolly Parton, and Willie Nelson
0:21:51 Remembering Chris Farley’s Chippendales Audition
0:22:45 Staying in Character on SNL: The Early Days
0:23:44 Victoria’s Exciting Life as a Police Helicopter Pilot’s Wife
0:25:22 Landing in a Bad Neighborhood with Bullet-Wounded Teenagers
0:25:29 Victoria’s Ex-Husband: Satan the Fire Eater
0:29:56 SNL Casting and Life-Changing Moments
0:35:39 Victoria’s journey to Nashville and retirement plans
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Long Summary

In this episode of “Tell Us a Good Story,” we have the pleasure of speaking with Victoria Jackson, a former cast member of Saturday Night Live. Victoria has a wealth of stories to share about famous comedians and musicians such as Robin Williams, Dolly Parton, and Chris Farley. We are excited to delve into her career and how she got her big break on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.

But before we begin, I want to take a moment to express our gratitude to all our listeners. Your support and engagement mean the world to us. So please remember to subscribe and share the show with your friends and family. Now, let’s dive into the interview with Victoria.

We kick off the conversation by asking Victoria about her famous handstands. She regales us with stories of performing handstands in unexpected places like the desk of SNL and a champagne glass bathtub. It’s clear that Victoria has a great sense of humor and loves to keep things light-hearted.

Moving on, Victoria takes us back to the early days of her career. She tells us about her decision to quit college and pursue comedy, with dreams of marrying someone and having seven children. However, her plans took a turn when her then-boyfriend’s father refused to pay for her college and they were deemed too young to get married. Undeterred, Victoria made the bold choice to head to LA and become a typist while pursuing acting on the side. Eventually, she returned to college to finish her degree and recently even obtained her master’s. We also learn that Victoria has a book, now in its second edition, filled with amazing testimonials. Listeners can order a personally signed copy on her website.

Our conversation takes an interesting turn when Victoria mentions Mitzi Shore and the Comedy Store. She shares how she had to create her own routine, incorporating handstands, poetry recitation, and playing the ukulele. After honing her act for two years, a talent scout from The Tonight Show saw her performance and offered her a spot. Victoria even shares a behind-the-scenes tidbit about the scout’s nerves, as his job was on the line if Johnny Carson didn’t like her. Luckily, Carson did enjoy her act, leading to 18 more appearances on The Tonight Show.

Victoria’s talent caught the attention of Lorne Michaels, who offered her an audition for Saturday Night Live in 1986. She opens up about the nerve-wracking experience and how she kept everything in perspective, prioritizing glorifying God. Despite pressure to compromise her beliefs, Victoria has always stayed true to her faith and values. She mentions instances where she’s had disagreements with directors over nudity or inappropriate scenes, but her goal has always been to be the best actress she can be while maintaining her integrity.

We take a moment to answer a frequently asked question from our listeners – how we manage to get such incredible guests on “Tell Us a Good Story.” We reveal that many of our best conversations have come from listener recommendations, featuring guests like Nick Vujicic, Coach Tom Ryan, and Carol Muntica. We encourage our audience to continue sending us recommendations through our website.

Returning to Victoria’s anecdotes, she shares some interesting encounters with celebrities like Dolly Parton, Willie Nelson, Adam Sandler, and Chris Farley. We get a glimpse into her experiences with these talented individuals, including her daughter’s crush on Adam Sandler and Chris Farley’s enthusiastic personality. Victoria reminisces about her favorite SNL sketch involving Chris Farley – the Chippendales audition – highlighting his incredible acting skills and physical comedy.

Throughout the conversation, Victoria emphasizes the importance of maintaining character and professionalism in the entertainment industry. She shares how Lorne Michaels instilled a rule among the SNL cast to stay in character and not break, although Adam Sandler seemed to push the boundaries of that rule. Victoria appreciates it when comedians don’t laugh at themselves, but enjoys when guest hosts on the show can’t contain their laughter.

We uncover a fun fact about Victoria – she appeared on the TV show Candid Camera, pretending to be a doctor on her first day of work and pranking unsuspecting people. While it was funny, Victoria couldn’t help but feel a bit guilty since they were expecting a real physical exam. Surprisingly, nobody recognized her as an SNL cast member during the prank.

As we wrap up the conversation, we encourage our listeners to share our show with others if they enjoy it. However, if they don’t, we kindly ask them to keep it to themselves. Finally, we touch on Victoria’s recent projects, including her appearance in a Christmas comedy movie and the release of her music comedy album titled “When I Get to Nashville.” She reveals her inspiration for the album and her dream of performing at the Grand Ole Opry. Listeners can find Victoria on social media and her website to stream or purchase the album.

We conclude the episode by expressing our gratitude to Victoria for joining us and promise our listeners that we’ll share more about ourselves in the future. Thank you all for being a part of the “Tell Us a Good Story” community!

Brief Summary

In this episode of “Tell Us a Good Story,” we chat with Victoria Jackson, former cast member of Saturday Night Live. Victoria shares entertaining stories about famous comedians and musicians, including Robin Williams, Dolly Parton, and Chris Farley. We discuss her career and how she got her big break on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. Tune in for laughter and insights from Victoria’s incredible journey.

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Victoria Jackson’s SNL Days and Big Break

[0:00] Hello, friends. Welcome to another episode of Tell Us a Good Story.
For those of you who may have watched Saturday Night Live back in the 80s or early 90s, you will immediately recognize our next guest voice.
She was on SNL for six seasons with some iconic comedians, Victoria Jackson.
You guys, we threw out a bunch of names to Victoria to see if she had any stories about some of the people she worked with or did a comedy sketch with.
She had stories about Robin Williams, Dolly Parton, Willie Nelson, Adam Sandler, and one of our all-time favorites, Chris Farley.
Victoria got her big break at the age of 23 when she performed on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.
So what’s scarier? The first time you’re on The Tonight Show or auditioning for Saturday Night Live or being on the iconic show Candid Camera and not being able to break character?
This woman’s career and stories are just fascinating.
You guys, we can’t wait for you to hear this episode with the very funny Victoria Jackson.
I’m Kevin. And I’m Stephanie. And during our marriage, we have dealt with an electrocution, a brain tumor, brain surgery.
Then doctors telling us that children were not in our future, followed by miscarriage, and then Kevin’s cancer diagnosis.
However, today, we live a life completely healed and restored with three healthy children who doctors said were not possible.
And we’re here to tell stories that inspire, give hope, and brighten your day.
Welcome to Tell Us a Good Story.

Introduction and Reminder to Subscribe and Share

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[1:58] Steph. O-M-G. I cannot believe we’re talking to her. This is going to be so much fun. I’ve been looking forward to this.
Well, friends, our next guest is a comedian, actress, singer, and a Saturday Night Live alum.
You may know her as a former cast member of SNL from 86 to 1992.
And she just released her first music comedy album, When I Get to Nashville, which is now available at all digital outlets, including Amazon.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to Tell Us a Good Story, Victoria Jackson. Oh, Victoria!

[2:30] Thank you for having me. Well, first off, Victoria, thank you for saying yes to Steph and I. We are ecstatic to talk to you.
The first thing I want to ask you, right, when you were doing, when you’ve been doing comedy, a lot of what you’ve been known for is the handstands.
When was the last time you did a handstand?
Oh, that’s a good question. Oh, I got to get the picture and show you the last handstand that I stuck that I could hold was when I was 60 and I’m 64. So now I have to cheat.
This was in Paris two years ago.
That was our hotel room. Oh, my gosh.
And I’m cheating because I’m I’m leaning against the doorframe. Oh, OK. Yes. Yes.
But I could stick it and hold it my whole life because my dad was a gymnastics coach.
And the reason why that was meaningful to me was because there’s nothing you can do with that skill except be a coach.
If you do get in the Olympics and you get on a cereal box, you become a coach.
There’s nothing to do with gymnastics.

[3:35] There’s no purpose on the earth for gymnastics skills.
So when I went to Hollywood and I was 19 and I was noticing that stand-up comedy was a new thing, I didn’t know how to stand out in the crowd because all the blonde homecoming queens of America were against me for commercials.
And so I thought, hey, maybe if I say my lines upside down, they’ll remember me or I’ll get the part or something. So I started doing it here and there.
And then my agent, Mark Teitelbaum, said, stop doing handstands.
I can’t sell you as a serious actress if you keep doing handstands.
Right. So, you know, it had good and bad. It did get me on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, which was my big break.
What’s the longest you could do a handstand? Because I think I had read it was over three minutes, I believe.
No, I don’t think three. I think maybe a minute. And you know how long 60 seconds is?
That’s a long time. It’s a very long time. Especially upside down.
Yes. I think maybe a minute and a half was the longest.
But on my new CD, I’m doing it in front of the statue at Music Row in Nashville.
And that’s a Minnie Pearl statue.

[4:52] Where’s the craziest place you’ve done a handstand? Oh, yes.
Because I saw on a fire hydrant, I saw on the desk of SNL. Okay, this was in LA on a diving board.
Crazy oh this is my backyard when i was growing up look at that stuff very poor neighborhood but my dad had a beam this is my competing years i have like every city i’ve ever been to this one looks dangerous yes it does it’s in new york but is that on the top of a hotel or something what is that it was might have been 30 rock but it was uh there was a little garden below it so i I wouldn’t have died died.
And then like, I did them everywhere. Oh, the scariest one I ever did was, In a champagne glass bathtub in the Poconos, 15 feet high.

Victoria’s embarrassing yet super cool mom

[5:47] No.
And it’s in here, but I won’t show that. It’s a Christian show.
So Steph, can you imagine, Victoria’s your mom. Like, we like embarrassing our kids.
Totally. But when she has kids, like, embarrassing them.
Like, okay, take a picture of me. I’ve got to do this handstand in front of the Grand Canyon or whatever.
Like everywhere they’re going she’s gonna be doing a handstand i think that goes not embarrassing but super cool mom i think so too super cool i think i’m a cool mom but they think kind of weird but uh yeah neither one of them have followed in the entertainment show biz footsteps except my oldest daughter is a writer speaker and she writes christian books so she That’s a little bit like showbiz, you know?
Yes. I love that. I have a question.
What made you quit college to pursue comedy?
That’s a good question. You guys are a really cute couple. Oh, thank you. Thank you. You look like Barbie and Ken.

[6:49] I will take that. Absolutely. Thank you. Okay, so my childhood is serious.
Workout, gymnastics, no TV, church three times a week, Southern Baptist Church.
You know, everything was serious.
But my parents were very funny.
But in college, my dream was to marry Paul Wessel and have seven children in matching outfits like Maria and the Sound of Music and live in a mansion and play the ukulele and have them harmonize.

[7:21] And a little kink came into my dream. I had a diamond ring from Paul in college at Furman University, 77, 78.
And his dad said, you’re too young to get married.
I will not pay for your college if you get married okay and I will Paul if you really loved me you’d stand up to him and say I’m marrying her anyway you know his whole life was like you have to get a college degree so I couldn’t afford Furman anymore and he could so it was like well I can either go back home to Miami and be a typist and save up money and try to finish college.
Or I could be a typist in Greenville, South Carolina, but I don’t know where I live if I’m not allowed in the dorm.
Or I could be a typist in Hollywood, California, and chase my whim of acting.
I got the acting bug because I was in one play at Furman, and it got laughs.
And it was like a drug. I was like, I must have that feeling again.
And so I thought, this is the only time in my life when I can chase a whim because I know I’ll be married and have kids someday so uh through a series of adventures I ended up in LA and I was a typist in LA.

[8:39] And trying to be an actress on the side. So that’s what made me leave college.

Returning to college and earning a master’s degree

[8:44] I couldn’t afford it, but I did get my BA at age 50.
When my kids were in high school, I went back, finished my degree.
And two years ago, I just got my master’s because I was kind of bored.
Well done, Victoria. That’s good. In film, I thought I would learn how to work the camera and the lighting because I’m too old to be on camera now.
I don’t like to see myself on camera.
I said, well, I could be a director or something, but I didn’t learn how to do the camera or the lights.
I think I’m going to have to learn on the job because they didn’t teach me.
But I do have my master’s.

Exciting second edition of “You Met Her Where” book

[9:27] All right, Steph, we are super excited to share our book with listeners.
Oh my gosh, you guys, we now have the second edition of our book titled You Met Her Where with an updated cover cover that includes some pretty amazing testimonials. Yeah, it does.
We asked prior guests if they would check out our book and consider writing a referral for our updated edition.
Well, you will now see on the cover testimonials from Jim Trestle, Victor Marks, three-time Olympic gold medalist, Leah Amico, and the co-creator of Chicken Soup for the Soul, Mark Victor Hanson.
Oh my gosh, you guys, we are still pinching ourselves.
If you want to order your copy of You Met Her Where at kevinandsteph.com, we’ll make sure to personally sign a a copy for you or whoever you want to gift it to. Again, go to kevinandsteph.com.
And as always, thank you for listening to Tell Us a Good Story.

[10:12] So tell us how you got your big break. In Hollywood.
Okay, so the way I got to Hollywood was I was doing summer stock in Birmingham, my first acting job.
And the lead, Johnny Crawford, the star of it, he was from Hollywood.
He was a child star on the rifleman he was 33 i was 19 he wanted me to be in his nightclub act i said well you gotta ask my parents blah blah blah i’m in hollywood i had three jobs i’m living in a retirement hotel room and board and i’m thinking how do i get an agent because johnny didn’t have an agent okay like johnny how do you get an agent and he goes i don’t know it’s hard and so stand-up was a new thing in 1980 and there’s very few women doing it and I thought if I could do a stand-up routine, I could get people to look at me and maybe I could get an agent or something.
So I didn’t have an act. I didn’t have six minutes. You need six minutes to get on Johnny Carson.
Okay. So I went to the comedy store on open mic night and I did Lily Tomlin’s routine, Edith Ann.
My name is Edith Ann. I’m five and a half years old.
Anyway, I did that. You did her exact act?
Yeah. You’re not supposed to. Is that a no-no? That’s a no-no.
But I did a no-no.

[11:33] I didn’t know. So I did her act, and then it was 1 in the morning.
That was my allotted time. There’s three drunk businessmen in the audience. That’s it.
And I got off the stage, and Mitzi was in the back, the famous Mitzi.
And she goes, you don’t care to do someone else’s act, especially if they’re alive.

[11:55] And I was like, oh, I did not know. Mitzi Shore, right?
Mitzi Shore. Okay. And so then I thought, oh, I have to make up my own routine.
So I thought, well, I can do a handstand. I made up some poems.
I can play the ukulele. I thought if I do a handstand and say poetry, it’ll keep them watching.
I don’t know if it’s funny, but they will keep watching.
And so I started doing it at the Variety Arts Center for two years.
Every night in my cigarette girl job, I asked the boss if I could.
And I put my cigarette tray down, do my little six minutes, and I honed it for two years.
I saw what they laughed at, what they didn’t laugh at.
And then the talent scout from the Tonight Show was in there one night, and he saw it, and he said, would you like to be on the Tonight Show?

Victoria’s big break on The Tonight Show

[12:47] So that was my big break, and then I was standing backstage, and the talent scout was holding the curtain.
He was going to pull it back, and I was supposed to walk out and hit the mark in the center of the stage, and his hand was shaking.
And we were both waiting for the announcer to call my name, and I said, why is your hand shaking?
I’m the one who has to go out there. And he goes, because if Johnny doesn’t like you, I lose my job. Oh, no.

[13:13] He’s the one who recommended you, probably? Yeah, he’s the one who saw me in the club. That was his job, going to find stand-up.
And so I went out there, and Johnny liked my act, and he went like that.
And so Jim McCauley did not lose his job. Yay.
Yay, Jimmy. Hey, Victoria, how old were you? 22?
I was 23, my first Tonight Show. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

[13:38] Just a kid. Yeah, and then I did. I was on 20 times.
Were you really? I was on 18 with Johnny, one with Gary Shandling, one with someone else.
And then I think that’s how Lorne Michaels heard of me was probably from seeing me on The Tonight Show.
And then in 86, when I was 26, then I got the audition for Saturday Night Live.
And I had a baby, and I was married to a fire eater. My 20s were a great adventure.
Okay. Okay. You just threw a lot out there. You just stole a few of my fun facts as well, Victoria.
But what’s scarier for you? Is it auditioning for SNL or going on the Carson’s show for the first time? That’s a good question.

Comparing the fear of auditioning for SNL and Carson’s show

[14:21] Thank you. No one’s ever asked me that. Oh, good. No one’s ever asked me how, why I left college. That was cool.
Um, they were both equally scary. How do you say both of those sound incredibly scary to me?
But because I’m a Christian, I have everything in perspective.

[14:39] Right. Like it was scary and exciting. But my main goal in life was not to be a famous movie star. It is to glorify God.
So that takes a little pressure off.
Did you ever feel pressure to dirty up your set or cuss during your set?
Did they ever put pressure on you for that? Or if you get to a film, you’re like, I don’t want to do this. But you’re in the film. How does that work?
Yeah, that’s the hard part. I’ve had a few instances like that.
The movie Casual Sex was my first lead role.
The title is shocking. The movie, it’s not shocking, especially compared to what’s on Netflix now. But it’s not a Christian movie, but it’s pretty much anti-casual. But I was playing the not promiscuous girl.
So when I auditioned, I assumed that I would be clothed because my character was the shy, modest one.
You know, I’m like, well, I’m not going to make me. And so then after I get the job and a month goes and we’re shooting and I can’t get out of it, And then the director was like, I want you to show your butt when you are going to the table.
I’m like, Geneviève, my character would never show her butt.
She’s very uncomfortable.
And then, like, we had a disagreement.

[16:02] She’s like, I said, Geneviève, I’m a Christian. And she goes, but you are playing Melissa.
Melissa is not a Christian, you know. Right. I don’t do a French accent very good.
So, you know, she’s right. right i i’m not playing me so there’s a it’s hard like my first movie was the pickup artist and i was supposed to be a bad girl but i had no bad words i had like tiny scenes and i went to my pastor harold lane at first baptist pasadena and i said pastor should i turn this movie down and he goes vicky i think you should be the best actress you can be at your job and be the best wife and mother and Christian and your real life and I was like okay Oh words I always change the words oh good I never took God’s name in vain if it like it SNL if it said OMG you know bummer no one ever said anything they know it’s It’s good. I said anything.

[17:10] Nobody scolded me or anything. And a lot of times if you don’t say the cuss word, it’s way funnier if you don’t anyway, you know, crumb bunnies or something.
But my dad was very strict about words. And so I did start using the F word when I was 50, only screaming at my husband because the rage was unbearable and I repented.

[17:37] But, yeah, I didn’t test until I was 50, which is kind of weird.

The decision to take or turn down a role involving nudity

[17:41] But, Victoria, if I were you, I would be immediately calling for a stunt double.
Right? Don’t you have stunt doubles on those movies? Like, hey, it’s your turn. Go show your butt. Yes, you show your butt. Come on in. Tag team, you’re in.
Yeah. I have heard of that.
But it was a hard decision because I thought, if I turn it down, God will bless me and my career.
But then I thought, but I also have to pay the rent.
And, you know, it’s hard. It is hard.
But my little joke is, now that I’m 64, nobody asks me to be naked anymore.
It’s not a problem!

Most asked question: How do we get incredible guests?

[18:19] Steph, what is one of the most asked questions we get about Tell Us a Good Story?
Do I really get that excited?
Besides that one. Oh! How do we get all these incredible guests? Correct.
And some of our best conversations have been with guests who our listeners have reached out to us and said, you should talk to this person.
To name just a few, Nick Vujicic, Coach Tom Ryan, Carol Muntica were all recommendations from our listeners.
So if there’s someone you would like us to interview and think they might be a great fit for Tell Us a Good Story, please let us know at kevinandsteph.com.
You don’t even have to personally know them. True. But do me a favor.
Before you submit their names, please make sure they are still alive.
That has actually happened and it is super hard for me to find their contact information. But regardless, thank you for listening to Tell Us a Good Story.

Funny Moments with Steve Martin, Dolly Parton, and Willie Nelson

[19:31] Oh, I was in a sketch with him where…
You’re his wife, I think. Yes, having a baby.
And the joke is he’s asking me to hold the video camera while I’m in labor.
Shooting him like he’s a narcissist. He’s like, can you see me?
My story of him, he’s just very shy and quiet if he’s not performing.
That’s what I noticed. Very shy.
Wow. How about Dolly Parton? I sang a song with her didn’t get on the show she was sweet but I didn’t get to know her very well Steve Martin?

[20:14] Shy, quiet, very serious about comedy, had a briefcase with sharpened pencils and blank yellow pads in it that he opened up at the first meeting of SNL to write down ideas with everyone and yeah he approaches comedy What I observed with the precision of a heart surgeon. Oh, wow. Yes.
Very serious. Is this funnier or is this funnier? Like it’s science.
Yeah. Uh-huh. How about Willie Nelson?

[20:46] I loved when I got to sing with him. He sang my song.
He didn’t come to the rehearsal, but he pulled it off anyway with the cue cards.
And people were making jokes about the roaches in his limo or something.
I don’t know. But he was very charming and kind and I don’t I didn’t get to know the people because it was just like boom And then it’s over.
Yeah, how about Adam Sandler? Oh, Oh, Adam Sandler. Okay, so he was new when I was old there.
And I was a little older. And I remember his first sketch, I think, was a fake commercial.
And I had to kiss him or something, like, on the mouth, like that.
And I remember my daughter was about four at the time, and she got a crush on him.
Oh, yeah. Like, she was on the set, and she was just like, okay.
I mean, of all the people there, she picked him to have a crush on.
I don’t know. But I didn’t have any much with him because he was always with Spade and Farley.
And they’re always together. Yeah. Little magic ideas.

Remembering Chris Farley’s Chippendales Audition

[21:51] What about Chris Farley? I and especially around women.
Was he? He’d be like, hi, Chris, in the hallway. And you’d be like, oh, my God. Yeah.
Sounds like our first date stuff. Yes. Yes. That sketch where he auditions for Chippendales? Yes.
My favorite sketch of all time.
And I don’t think it’s making fun of his body. I think it shows that he’s a great actor.
He stayed in character. He’s great physical comedy. And how he stayed in character was just so charming to me.
It was so innocent and childlike. That sketch, I just love it.
I had had one line in it i was so happy i got to be in it i i think my line is they’re ready for you.

Staying in Character on SNL: The Early Days

[22:45] Okay so speaking of snl and trying to stay in character how hard is it to stay in character when you’re doing that show well i found it quite easy because i am a professional of course and And Lorne Michaels told our cast, we do not break character, which means laugh at yourself.
Right. Okay, so he wanted us not to.
Then when Adam Sandler came along and started doing it all the time, and everybody liked anything he did, then the rule didn’t exist anymore, I guess.
Lorne let that one go.
But I like it better when comedians don’t laugh at themselves. I like it way better.
I like it when the guests can’t hold it in.
Like whoever’s hosting, whoever’s hosting, they can’t keep it together.
I love that. You know, that’s true. That has a charm too. It does. It does.

Victoria’s Exciting Life as a Police Helicopter Pilot’s Wife

[23:44] All right, Victoria, for all of our guests, I like to give a list of fun facts to let listeners know what you’ve done, what you’ve accomplished.
Steph’s not aware of any of these besides the one you’ve already mentioned, right? So you’ve mentioned a few of these already, but keep me honest, Victoria, if any of these are off.

[23:59] All right stuff you ready let’s do it okay fun fact number one about victoria in 1991 victoria reunited with her high school sweetheart married him moved to florida where he was a police helicopter pilot and would chase bad guys oh okay so what is that like victoria i’m assuming that’s actually probably a good gig like the criminals aren’t shooting at your husband in the air right it’s too far away but what is it like for him like do you have any good stories from that he loved it i would not love that job and they can shoot him but they don’t think of it don’t tell them he loved it because he was like superman you know right shine his light on him and i went up with him about once or twice and he said that i have an aura uh whenever i’m near machines they break something about my aura so the only time his chopper ever broke was when i got in it oh no the engine chip light went on whatever that is and he had to land in a bad neighborhood in a school field and it was such a bad neighborhood that when we landed and he waited for his other cops to save us some teenagers came over to see the chopper and they had bullet wounds from a recent shooting in their neck. What?

Landing in a Bad Neighborhood with Bullet-Wounded Teenagers

[25:22] Okay, that is a bad neighborhood. Yeah, it’s a bad neighborhood. And I’m like, oh.

Victoria’s Ex-Husband: Satan the Fire Eater

[25:29] Like the guy had, yeah. So that was one exciting thing.
Okay, not to bring up a bad situation, but I thought this was very funny.
Okay, Victoria, her first husband, I have heard her call him Satan a few times, but he was actually a fire eater.
She just said that. She had said that. Yes, so what does that entail?
Do you do shows together?

[25:52] How does that work? Any crazy situations with practicing at home or anything like that, Victoria?
Well, he wouldn’t give me the secret because magicians are not supposed to share their secrets.
And there was real fire involved. I did see it up close.
It’s something about the lighter fluid that he squirts in his mouth beforehand.
The fire laps that up first before your skin.
I don’t know. But when I first met him He was doing an Al Jolson impression Playing the piano And then eating fire for his encore And I was doing a handstand poetry In a French domain costume We actually went together pretty well But there’s not much call for fire eating So it’s not like a salary You can raise a family on But I shouldn’t call him Satan Except it was a joke joke because I was trying to make up a standup routine and he did eat fire.
And then I go, he said, he’s going to sue me if I keep calling him that in public.
So now I just call him the artist formerly known as Satan.

[27:01] But you know, I was just goofing around, but yeah, both of my husbands are kind of like cartoon figures, aren’t they?
Well, is it true that you used to date Weird Al Yankovic. Is that true?
Well, in between my first and second husband, I was single for like a week.

[27:23] And I got a crush on him when I played the leading lady in his movie.
And we did kiss at the end like Scarlett and Rhett in Gone with the Wind.
I think he’s a wonderful person. I think he’s a Christian. I went to church with him once.
And we bought groceries together once and we had dinner together once but I don’t know if it was really dating I someday I would like to ask him if we were dating if he would have asked me to marry him I probably would have said yes it was on your IMDB page is where that was that you had dated him for a brief period of time so that’s that’s where where that fun fact came from.
Yeah, I don’t know. We should ask him. Okay.
I wanna know, since you went out grocery shopping, is there ever a time where you go shopping and you get noticed?

[28:19] Sometimes I do, but when I talk, their heads whip around. Oh, the voice.
Yes. And they go, I know that voice.
So it’s usually that, the voice. Yeah, I can see that. All right, next fun fact. She already took this one.
Victoria performed stand-up for two years until Carson’s team found her and put her on The Tonight Show 20 times.
So following multiple appearances, she became a household name with a lengthy list of credits in TV and film.
So she’s actually been in over 80 films is what I’ve seen Wow yes did you know that I did I know that okay that was on your IMDB page as well you are credited with over 80 films on that website Wow well it’s probably true it’s just probably like some of them are probably like embarrassingly not good ones you know it’s really hard to make a hit film I was in Sean Connery Dustin Hoffman Sidney Lumet and Matthew Broderick.
That film, one film, and it bombed. Did it?
Yeah, because there’s like a magic element that no one knows where it comes from that makes a film good.

[29:31] Right, yeah. You’re not going to bet a thousand, obviously. Okay, so she, of course, was on SNL for six seasons from 1986 to 1992.
So kind of going along with what you just said. Uh-huh. Victoria, how did getting cast in that change your life, right?
Was it immediate where now you’re in New York, everyone notices you?
Was there a pinch me moment where it’s like, okay, my life’s completely different now once you were cast there?

SNL Casting and Life-Changing Moments

[29:56] Oh, that’s such a good question. You guys are so cute.

[30:01] Thank you. I just want to kiss you and not do it in my pocket.
You’re so cute. Girlfriend, I would take that. I’d take that.
I would hug you back. I’m like, you just give me all the kisses.
Good thing we’re recording this, Steph. We can listen to this down the road when we’re having a rough day. I love it. You’re so cute.
And you have so much joy and love. Oh, thank you. You’re adorable.

[30:25] Well, when I was first on The Tonight Show, I thought, what’s it going to be like the next day?
So I went out in public. Did you? Did you just walk around?
On nobody was looking yeah and then i went i was like i gotta do something to to mark this momentous occasion so i went to a pet store and i had a tiny apartment i couldn’t get a dog or a cat i go i’ll get a goldfish you know something alive so i got it and when i was paying for it i was like um hello what were you doing last night and the cashier’s like and i’m like oh i mean i’m not a weirdo i just were you watching the tonight show with johnny carson yeah and they’re like i was like oh never mind so so that the first day after the tonight show nothing nobody recognized me but snl was it different uh snl after about the first year or two and lauren said you guys you’re gonna start having a little bit of a different life you know people are starting Everyone in the world is starting to know who you are now. But it depends where you are.
Because then I would, if I was in like Miami, where no one spoke English, not so much recognition. You know?

[31:45] Any pinch me moments then at SNL where it’s like, oh my gosh, this person knew my name, or I’m singing with Willie Nelson.
Like any pinch me moments once you were in the cast?

[31:56] Well, the time I was singing I’m Not a Bimbo and Steve Martin was the host and Sting was the music. Oh, my gosh.
I remember being on the update desk going, oh, I’m not a bimbo.
And I wasn’t thinking there’s an audience or there’s millions of people in America watching.
I was thinking, I can’t believe Steve Martin and Sting know I exist. Right.
That’s cool. I could see that. That’s kind of a weird concept.

[32:27] Yeah, for sure. All right. Next fun fact about Victoria. She was actually on the iconic TV show, Candid Camera.
Were you really? She dressed up as a doctor and acted like it was her first day on the job before telling people that they were on Candid Camera. I love that.
But I felt really bad about it because these people were told they’re getting a physical exam for their insurance.
Or something and i was supposed to act like the doctor it’s her first day and she doesn’t i don’t hear your heart uh how do you work this again and it is funny but it’s kind of mean.

[33:10] Steph she gave them her stethoscope said i can’t hear anything can you hear anything and they put on and she would like yell into the end and they would like rip it out of their ears yeah i can hear it it works fine yeah but the weirdest thing is none of the people recognized me because they They were in a doctor’s real office, and they didn’t expect to see an SNL person there.
So they were just sitting there trying to get it over with.
They didn’t recognize me. They didn’t even think twice about she doesn’t know anything.
Oh, so funny. It kind of teaches you we should be more observant or something in our real lives because I tricked them all.
Right. Were they, did they think it was funny once they found out or were they upset?
I never saw them when they found out. Really? No, I did my job. I got paid.
But I didn’t see them. I just saw them. Faked that I was a doctor.
They left and I never saw them again. They had to sign a paper, I guess. But I never saw them. Yeah. Wow.
See, that’s where her training comes in. Like not break character.
Because you couldn’t break character or it gives it away. That’s true.

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All right, final fun fact. Victoria has been incredibly busy here lately.
She’s been seen on the new Christmas comedy movie, Jingle Smells, opposite John Schneider, who we interviewed last year. Yes, we did.
We kept calling him Bo Duke the whole time, Victoria. He was very kind, but he had some great stories.
But in that movie is also Jim Brewer, Eric Roberts, Sean Hannity, Mike Huckabee.
Yes. She also just released in November her very first music comedy album titled when I get to Nashville and The album includes, yep, she’s holding it up right now. Aww, with her puppy.
The album includes 18 hilarious songs, plus some stand-up, about landing in Music City, and features a cameo from her fellow SNL star, Rob Schneider. Aww.

Victoria’s journey to Nashville and retirement plans

[35:39] So, Victoria, please tell us more about your new album that you just released.
Congratulations, by the way. Thank you.
Well, I was driving to Nashville in my white pickup truck, and I had three dogs in the front seat. My husband had just retired from being a cop in Miami.
And we’re like, it’s a no-brainer. Where are we going to retire?
Where our children and grandchildren are. Right. Makes sense. They were in Nashville.
So I was getting this tune in my head. When I get to Nashville, I’m going to da-da-da.
And I thought, hey, wait a minute. I’m a songwriter.
I wrote songs in my 20s. I wrote Use Me because I was an out-of-work actress.
And I wrote the Boyfriend song because I was looking for a husband.
I sang it on Johnny Carson.
In my 30s, I wrote, Where Do You Draw the Line Between Love and Adultery?
And I wrote, I’m a Bimbo and sang it on Saturday Night Live.
So I made three goals. I want to sing at the Opry.
I want to make a CD of my songs. And I want to hear them on the radio.
So I did check off two of those.
And now the last one left is to sing at the Grand Old Opry before I die.
That would be fantastic.
Yeah, and I think they need new mini Pearl. I was going to say, do you have any connections? Yes. I don’t have any. None?

[37:02] No. And so I’ve been here 11 years and these are all songs I wrote since I moved here, but I’m just putting it out there.
If the gatekeeper to the Opry is listening, I would like to sing at least one time there.
That would be amazing. I have an idea for you when we get off the call here that I just thought of.
Oh, that might help. Okay. All right. Well, listeners, for more information about Victoria, Victoria, you can go to her social media pages on Instagram.
It’s at Victoria Jackson official on Facebook.
It’s Victoria Jackson, L her website, which is where you can get the CD.
Wait, wait, what’s the L?
I don’t know. What is your Facebook? Oh, you know what your handle is?
I don’t know, but I don’t think it has an L on it.
I had an L on that. Okay. But forget about that. You can find my Facebook.
It’s pretty easy. It’s Victoria Jackson something.

[37:57] Official, yes. But my website is victoriajackson.com. Yes. And they can get streaming. That’s true.
You can hear it on Amazon and Spotify.
Yes, yes. And so, yeah, the music comedy album titled When I Get to Nashville is available in all the digital outlets that she just mentioned, including Amazon, and CDs available exclusively at her website, victoriajackson.com.
Well, Victoria, you are fantastic. This was so much fun. We’re fascinated by your career and everything.
God bless you. Thank you so much for coming on. Tell us a good story.
Well, next time I want to hear all about you because I feel like I hogged the conversation.

[38:36] You guys are adorable. And God bless you. You’re so adorable.
And you ask great questions. And I had fun. Thank you. Oh, thanks, Victoria. Victoria.

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