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[0:00] Hello, friends. Welcome to another episode of Tell Us a Good Story.
Today, like every fifth episode, it’s Steph and I sharing our own stories with you. And today we’re telling stories with our good friend, Mr.
Joe Muck. You guys, Joe was actually the very first guest of Tell Us a Good Story four years ago.
And it’s hilarious what has happened since we recorded that very first episode with him. I think he thought there might only be three people who would ever listen to that episode.
Well, little did he know, a bunch of his sixth grade students each year listen to that episode and ask him if he was actually a professional wrestler during college.
Also, Joe Sunzik is getting married here soon, and we’re so excited.
And in honor of him, we’re going to share some stories about what not to do when you get married.
And what not to say to your wife when you get married. Exactly.
Friends, we can’t wait for you to hear all of these stories with our friend, Joe Muck.
I’m Kevin. And I’m Stephanie. And during our marriage, we have dealt with an electrocution, a brain tumor, brain surgery.
Then doctors telling us that children were not in our future, followed by miscarriage, and then Kevin’s cancer diagnosis.
However, today, we live a life completely healed and restored with three healthy children who doctors said were not possible.
And we’re here to tell stories that inspire, give hope, and brighten your day.
Welcome to… Tell Us a Good Story.

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[1:56] Steph? Oh my gosh! It’s happening! The OG is back, baby!
Okay, she just lit up like a Christmas tree right there, Joe.
I was not expecting that. I was not either. That was an elevated energy right there.
Even for stuff. When I said we’re recording, it was like… I’m ready.
You’re ready to do this. I’m so freaking excited. It’s been a while. He’s back.

[2:19] Episode 205. And tonight we have our good friend, Mr. Joe Muck. Joe Muck’s here. Yes.
Thank you. All right. So you were, I think, our very first guest on Tell Us a Good Story. I think you were episode three.
And on that, one of the stories you had was a food man, chew man, where we talked about how Steph and I made up a lie for you and you told us how gullible your students are and you’re a sixth grade math teacher right and you said hey make up a lie and I guarantee you I can convince my kids of whatever and so we came up with that you’re a professional wrestler getting through college called Fu Manchu man we recorded it and since then you’ve had a ton of people ask if you were a professional wrestler so since last time you’re mostly 12 year year olds so since you’re on with us say a year ago have you had any more situations oh yeah so every year my students will try to find info about me online okay like just google search but i’m very very careful so it’s very difficult to find any of my address or anything like that criminal mugshots and stuff yeah that all yeah yeah that’s all been erased.

[3:30] So the only thing that usually always the first thing that pops up is an image from that episode of me that you know the picture you guys used to promote that episode and so they see that they they start reading about it a bunch of them have listened to the episode then and then they’ll come in and ask me about it and yeah that’s even though in the story i think we’ve talked about this one other time maybe but you know the end of the story is me revealing of course He was lying to children.
Yeah, it’s all made up. And again, most of them still come back in.
Like, were you really a wrestler?
To put yourself through college?

[4:05] After they’ve listened to the story. So, do you say, yes, I was?
Sometimes, yeah. I’ll totally just play it off.
That’s way more fun. I love it. So, yeah. You guys have a lot of young fans. Apparently.
So, the other day, Emmy, just this past week, came home and said that one of her teachers had said that episode 80 had popped up on her phone and so she listened to episode 80 was with you and our buddy adam and it was the one where it was going through your accident you would you had fallen you were on stilts you’re working construction in college yeah and you’d hit your head you messed up your leg and when they were willing you know i guess in the surgery every 30 seconds you would you hop up and be like oh my gosh my leg right yeah and then you had short short-term memory loss so that you would pass out after you saw your leg, then 30 seconds later you’d wake up forgetting what just happened, Oh my gosh, my leg. Yeah, same thing. Like dozens of times.

[5:02] So Emmy’s teacher literally went to her and said, I was laughing and ha-ha-ing out loud at your parents and their friends, episode 80, talking about that.
You know what’s cool? I was at the school last week and another person came up to me.
She’s like, I’m starting to work out and I’m listening to your guys’ podcast while I’m working out. I’m like, oh, that’s amazing.
Which one did you listen to? And she’s like, the one from Myrtle Beach when you and your husband got in a fight with him not tailing your parents close enough.
And I’m like, I love it. I’m like, but you agree he was in the wrong.
We all know that. She agreed.

[5:39] She did it because I had to go. Okay. There we go. I felt that she agreed with me. Okay.
So, Jo, since the food man, shoe man, have you told any big lies to your kids?
Any other, I guess, fictitious tales you’ve had for your sixth grade math kids?
Okay, so we did the story challenge that you guys came up with.
Yes. I think three times, if I remember right. Yes. And it’s been a long time ago.
Like all those kids are in college. Adults now, right? Adults, yeah. So the first one was Fu Manchu Man.
Yep. Where we said, you’re a professional wrestler, like in the minor leagues, and your name is Fu Manchu Man because you had a yellow mustache, right? Yeah.
Second one was what you… Plane crash survivor.
Plane crash survivor, yes. And the third one was you were in a hunting accident.
In a bear trap. Yeah, you got your leg caught in a bear trap.
Right. Yeah, so since then, I haven’t intentionally told any stories where it was all just made up.
Okay. Just see how gullible the kids are. But sometimes situations just present themselves.

[6:36] You can’t help yourself. I mean, I like my job a lot, and this is one of the things that can make it fun. Lying to kids. Yeah, lying to children.

[6:45] It’s very entertaining. I mean, it is for me. It’s one of the perks of the job.
So the other day, I had to go down to the office right at the beginning of the day, like right when we would be taking attendance to relay a message to our secretary and, And as I’m passing another co-worker’s room, I hear him talking to a kid.
And he says these words, which every teacher knows what this means.
Do you need to take the trash can with you?
So this kid is sick. He’s about to throw up maybe.
So I was already going that way. And so I said, hey, I’ll carry the trash can for him. And you could tell, I mean, this kid looked really miserable. Yes.
So we’re going down the hallway. I’m checking on him. He’s like, I think I’m going to make it. We get all the way down. I hand him off to the nurse.
Did your job. You’re done. I did my job. I relayed my message to the secretary.
I’m going back. Take the trash can back to the other classroom.
And I walk in. And the teacher of that class looks at me and he was like, did he make it? And I was like, he didn’t make it. Oh.
And all the kids are like, oh, like a low grumbling noise. And I’m standing there with the trash can.
And a couple of them noticed this. Okay. Most of them aren’t paying much attention at this point.
And then you could hear a few of them. And I saw them looking at me.
And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just go and I put the trash can down in the corner.
And that teacher wasn’t sure if I was messing or not.

[8:02] And we’re good buddies. We joke a lot. But he wasn’t sure himself.
Well, on my way down, this was, again, early in the morning.
So there were only like two, three pieces of paper in the bottom of this trash bag.
And there was an almost empty juice container from breakfast from the cafeteria with a little bit of grape juice on it.
Okay. So as I saw that, thoughts started thundering around in my head.
And I decided to pour the remnants of this little grape juice across those pieces of paper to get them wet and of course it looked kind of reddish okay so after having the trash can I was like look down in the trash can all the kids are like oh just that I’m looking in there I grabbed that paper oh no like literally some of the liquid is like running down the paper and it’s red and they’re like oh.

[8:48] And I’m like, yeah, don’t worry about it. Don’t worry. I’m like not actually touching it. You know, I’m just touching the paper, whatever.
And they’re just losing it. And the teacher’s over there looking at me like, what are you doing, Mr. Buck? Right.

[9:00] And another like 30 seconds or whatever goes by. Some of the kids are like staring at me.
What’s going on? Why is he still in here? And then I kind of hold my hand up towards my face and I start sniffing my fingers. Oh, no.
I said, I think he had strawberries for breakfast.
And then you have kids that are like holding their stomachs and just grossing everybody oh they’re so freaking out about this totally grossed out and i was like don’t worry about it it’ll be okay so then i finally like yeah hey i’m gonna take off and leave so i knew as soon as i left they were all going to be like talking about it everything yes which was fantastic so a couple periods later uh it was my free period and i was relaying this little story to another teacher in the hallway and she walked back to get her class started and i thought well here’s another little opportunity because some of those kids were in that first class okay now they’re in this other class a couple periods later so i go in there i said hey kids listen uh i’m not feeling the greatest i think i’m gonna go home at lunchtime but your math test for today is still on like in the afternoon and like as soon as i finish this one kid’s like well it’s probably because you You reached your hand into the trash can, and you pulled out the vomit-covered paper, and then you were, like, smelling your hand.
And then all the kids, of course, that didn’t know the story are, like, incredulous. You know, they’re kind of like, what did he do?

[10:24] So, you know, we had some fun with it. Again, when that opportunity presented itself to me, and I just had that weird random thought hit my head, And I was like, eh, sure, we’re going to just pretend this kid vomited and pour some grape juice onto the papers to make it work.
So, again, fun job.
All right, Steph, I’ve got a question for you. What’s your favorite book of all time? Obviously, You Met Her Where.
Oh, I thought you were going to say the Bible. Oh, oops.
What’s your second favorite book of all time? You Met Her Where?

[11:04] Thank you.
A distant second totally distant it’s pretty good book sorry god it’s still a pretty good book but we’re so excited where can people get our book okay i know this uh amazon.com yes barnes noble yes and and our website kevinsteff.com and what happens if they buy it off our website what do they get uh an autograph from us yes who wouldn’t want that so listeners if you’ve already read the book thank you so much we’ve had such good feedback one thing that helps us if you can give us a review on amazon.com we would greatly appreciate it thank you so much and thank you for listening so joe i’ve got a couple stories to share tonight one is i want to share what happened when your daughter zayler came over to our house at christmas two months ago okay so your daughter zayler is 19 is that right yeah 19 years old she’s a freshman at high high university right and we loved it that she wanted to hang out with us so she spent the night uh one weekend with us when she was home for christmas break kids are super excited to spend time with zayler so when they got here our five-year-old son tate went to zayler and started telling her.

[12:15] The house rules of the mason household here but it was like his rules right okay so he goes over to zayler and i just happened to walk in the room he’s like listen when you’re watching tv here do not and i repeat like do not buy anything you will get in so much trouble like he was he was very concerned like like look at me like i think he grabbed her face like listen do not buy anything on the tv you will get in so much trouble you don’t even want to know, Then he goes, listen, Zayler, when you go potty, when you’re done, just yell for my mommy and daddy, and they’ll come wipe you.

[12:57] She was like, excuse me? That is like full service. We still do that at our house.

[13:06] It’s better than a hotel. Here at the Mason house. So it was so funny.
He was going through all the house rules for Zayler, and she was very kind just to listen and laugh along. Oh, yeah.
So your son Zeke is here.
And his fiancee, Lauren. And they’re getting married here in about six weeks.
51 days. 51 days. Let us know. 51 days.
So Zeke was our ring bearer. Yes. Almost 20 years ago, Steph, in our wedding.
And it’s so sweet because now Lauren and Zeke asked Tate Mann to be their ring bearer. So I’m just like, oh, it just blessed my heart so much.
We actually were talking about that on the way up.
Were you? Just what a cool, yeah, full circle experience that has turned out to be. Very amazing. It’s so cool.
And it’s so nice. So in honor of Zeke, let’s talk about, Steph, what not to do when we get married. Love this. You love these stories.
Love this. Okay. So what story pops to your mind when it talks about what not to do when we get married?

[14:07] Probably one of them would be my hair. Okay. So we had just gotten married.
This is the first month of our marriage, Joe. First month. First month.
Yep. and I had been blonde forever and I’m like, let me like change it up and go dark.
It’s going to be healthier for my hair. I want it to be shiny.
And when you say forever, forever as long as I had known you for two and a half years, you had been a blonde. Yes.
I was used to blonde. I love blonde. I fell in love with a blonde. You did. You did.
You didn’t fall in love with a person? You fell in love with my hair?
So let’s change it as soon as you get married.
Yes. I just wanted to switch it up. I’m like, this will be fun.

[14:44] And I went to my hairdresser. She’s amazing. She did it.
And she’s like, oh, this looks really good. Brings out your eyes because I have blue eyes.
And I’m like, oh, I can’t wait to show Kevin. And I was a little nervous that I was going to show Kevin.
Apparently, Kevin loved me for my hair is what I realized when I showed him.
No. she came home and was like surprise and here’s what is not the proper response the proper response is not who did this to you that is not the proper response joe and here’s the context before we’d gotten married i had a friend say hey listen just so you know when when you get married things are going to change like what do you mean right he’s like it’s just much different he’s like first thing is your wife’s probably gonna want to be changing a lot of stuff about you and about the the house.
He’s like, you’re probably going to be so busy. You’re not going to be working out anymore. Kevin, you’re probably gonna get weight. Just expect you’re going to turn into a big fat guy. Right.
That’s basically what he was telling me. He’s like, also your wife, she’s going to change her hair. She’s going to change her hairstyle.
She’s going to have one of those mom cuts.
And I’m like, no, no, no, that’s not going to happen. So first month into our marriage, Steph comes home, has completely different hairstyle, different hair color.
And that’s what kind of set me off. Yeah. It freaked me out.
Like, oh my gosh, he was right.
Everything is changing now. And you didn’t have a heads up. You didn’t tell them. No. Oh, okay. Surprise. Oh, boy.

[16:08] She just came home like, who did this to you?
That was not a good. That was not the proper response. That was not the proper response.
No. That’s not how we should do that. I think I cried and called Michelle to have her talk me down.
Stephanie actually made the exact same mistake, except I just went bald.

[16:26] But when I first got married, I had a nice head of hair. Did you?
Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, gorgeous. Sort of curly, yeah.
You didn’t know this stuff? I had no clue. We’re going to have to find some pictures. You know he had a full head of hair? No. Oh, yeah.
Like, I would love to see that. Oh, we’ll do that. We can pull up some pictures.
Interesting. But in the end, that’s a shock to the system. The first time I shaved my head, you know what I’m saying?
Yeah. You don’t know what yourself, like, what you’re going to look like. So that’s scary enough.
What made you shave your head? I was going bald.
You’re like, we’re not having… Oh, yeah. I was not a hanger on her.
No. As soon as it was thinning… You’re done. You did it. Yeah.
Okay. Did you tell your wife? My sister at the time. Did you surprise her?
Yeah. No, she knew. Okay. She knew it was coming. Right.

[17:12] So my birthday from our first year of marriage is another thing that still stands out because I love birthdays. I love Christmas. I love birthdays.
They just make me happy. And I didn’t realize how important birthdays were to you at the time.
So important. I didn’t realize your parents had just what they had done for your birthdays.
They made it a big deal for your kids. Mom and dad made it such a big deal.
Like my birthday is literally five days after Christmas.
And mom was so conscious of that. Like she didn’t want it to be like, oh, we just had Christmas.
Here’s a birthday party, which it was nothing. No, she made it super special.
So I’m assuming the very first year of marriage, my husband’s going to make it super special. It’s going to be amazing.

[17:53] Because that’s how my parents did it for me, Joe. I mean, yes, they made a big deal out of our birthdays. Did they?
No. No? Just like, you’re 10, 13, 16.
Really? 18, yeah. But not like, I’m turning 20.
No. But as an adult, your parents made you feel very, very special. Yes.
Because of my birthday. Yes. Yes. I mean, once I got 18, it’s like…
You’re done. I wouldn’t say you’re done, but I mean, it’s different.

[18:18] It’s different. Well, my parents made it special. Your mama still makes you a pie. She does. And it’s delicious. I love your birthday pie.
So anyways, I’m expecting… Like, he never asked me what I want for dinner, what I want for my birthday cake, what I want for my birthday.
I’m like, oh, he’s going to surprise me. And it is going to be amazing.
I surprised you. Oh, you sure did. It is now six or seven o’clock at night.
I haven’t had anything special. There’s no cake involved.

[18:48] And I’m not going to mention it because now I am being, what’s the word?
Dramatic. I’m not dramatic.
Maybe a little bit. But I was like, I’m going to prove a point.
Like, this is my birthday. And I was like, no, he’s going to surprise me.
First year of marriage. He’s going to surprise me at the very end where I’m getting ready for bed.
And you were one of those people who didn’t think you should work on your birthday.
No. Either. No, you don’t work on your birthday. That’s not me. Wow. That is not me.
But to be fair, I’m a nurse.
At that point, I was in the hospital. So I worked three days a week.
So I had the option of not working on my birthday. In my world, that’s never an option.
Yeah. That I’m working on my birthday. Unless it falls on a weekend.
Totally. I’m working. But as a nurse, it’s a perk.
I don’t work on my birthday. so it’s like six seven o’clock at night and Kevin’s like oh gotta get home from work yes at six or seven o’clock at night it was a weekend it was on like a Saturday or a Friday do you want to validate that because I will look up right now if that was on a weekend yeah all right let’s check December 30th 2004.

[19:51] It was a Thursday. Okay. So I get home. No, no, no. So here’s the thing.
I guarantee you probably took a half a day. No. Because that week after Christmas to New Year’s, you didn’t work that much.
Right? I don’t know. Back then, early in my career, I probably did.
You might have. You might have.
So I guarantee I got home. All right. I had it planned with Steph.
But Joe, I forgot to wrap her gift.
Big no-no. I found out with Steph, it is, you’ve got to wrap the gift.
It can’t be in. It cannot be in Christmas wrapping paper. Yes.
That has since changed. Has to be in birthday wrapping paper. At that time, yes.
And at that time, don’t put it in like a bag and just hand it to her. No.

[20:29] So I didn’t do any of that. No, no. You know what he did? I still had it in the store bag.
He still had it in the store bag. He swung it in a circle like a lasso and threw it. And I was like, seriously?
She caught it across the room. Wait, obviously I caught it. So that didn’t impress her.
That was not impressive. Second thing is, Joe, I got her a ice cream cake from Dairy Queen. In a bag?
Not in a bag, but for her dessert. Yes. Okay, so I didn’t get birthday cake.
I got her an ice cream cake from Dairy Queen because I love ice cream cake from Dairy Queen.
And I had never met anybody in my life who did not like ice cream cake from Dairy Queen. So I’m like, she’s going to love this.
So I bought this sheet cake from the freezer and that is not what she wanted.
And I was totally confused. So here’s the deal.
He basically got me a birthday of everything he wanted.
Right. So he got me a bag. Inside the bag was a Buckeye shirt, which he loves. That’s what I was going to ask.
Then he got himself an ice cream cake. So that was where the confusion came.
We were going to share the ice cream cake.
Like, it’s going to be an amazing birthday. Yes. And I was confused because how do you not like this ice cream cake?
Everybody loves Dairy Queen ice cream. Everyone loves it. But it wasn’t your favorite dessert. It wasn’t what you were expecting.
Yes. I was coming at it from my perspective of, hey i love yeah i love this so i know my wife is going to love this.

[21:50] So that’s what I was thinking in my mind, because I love this. You’re going to love it.
Guarantee. And that’s not it. But you know what’s interesting now?
Being married almost 20 years, I could not care less if you got me a cake.
But in fact, this year, let me talk about what you did this year for my birthday.
This year, Kevin, as you all know, loves to shop for himself at Christmas.
So he’s been buying stuff on an L.L. Bean credit card so he gets points so he can get free things.
It’s very smart. It’s Kevin. And L.L. Bean’s credit card gives humongous bonuses.
They do. So that’s why. So he’s like, Seth, for your birthday, I have all of this money.
You pick something from the catalog that you want for your birthday.
So I did, and I showed him. And on my birthday, I got nothing that I picked out. From L.L. Bean. From L.L. Bean.
So when I told you, I was like, wait. You were confused. I was so confused.
I got you stuff, but you said, I thought you were going to get me something from L.L. Bean. I thought it was a done deal. Yeah. And I said, why would you think that?
And then you refresh my memory. Hey, remember that time you came to me with a catalog and I picked out a handful of things?
Yep. It was like, that was the first time I’d ever heard of this.
Like, what are you talking about? And then later on, I realized, yes, that’s exactly what I did.
So I totally messed that up. Totally fine. My bad.

[23:09] All right, Steph, I’m going to test you again here. What is your favorite book of all time? Obviously, it’s the Bible, Kevin. Yes. Nailed it.
Very good. Good. This time you didn’t say the book we wrote called You Met Her Where.
But it’s still a really good book. That is true. And it would make a great gift for friends or relatives on their birthday or for Christmas.
Friends, you can order your copy of our book titled You Met Her Where at kevinandsteph.com.
And we will make sure to personally sign a copy for you or whoever you want.
And as always, thank you for listening to Tell Us a Good Story.
How about this? Let’s talk about things not to say to your spouse after you get married. Joe, what’s one thing you shouldn’t say to a spouse?
Oh, my goodness. I mean, I’ve been told many times I’m pretty much the perfect husband.

[23:56] So this is going to be a tough one for you. I’ve been married for almost 24 years with a four-year break in between.
So that’s literally half of my life.
24 years of marriage is half of my life. so yeah.

[24:10] I don’t i’m pretty sure i’ve never messed you got it figured out so things not to say yes to your spouse one don’t ever ever no say relax or calm down no i found that out you never say that it is like pouring gasoline on a fire 1000 it is the opposite of relax and calm down yes it would have been better for me to say hey why don’t you freak out on me right now that would have that would actually calm the situation down more and say calm down or relax why is that a universal thing with women’s stuff you just you just can’t say it no like i i don’t know what it is but we try to have conversations with men and i think we’re coming from a spot like we want to get along with you we love you so if we’re getting fired up it’s probably because y’all aren’t listening to us and we’re getting more and more fired up and you’re like i don’t want to talk about this right now we’re like no we’re not done talking about this right now and then if you like start to walk away then that fires us up and then it bends when the moment when you’re like you just need to calm down and then i’ve i’ve hit the point i am mount vesuvius i’m erupting because you just told me to calm down all i wanted to do is have.

[25:23] A conversation i think that’s what it is but it’s universal so if i could give your son some advice don’t ever tell your wife relax or calm down never ever does that help the situation no it would be like for us like you and i kevin sometimes are let’s say a lack of temper control self-control especially if like we’re doing one of those really fun like house projects or something like that yeah you start perfect you start to throw the hammer across.

[25:49] The workshop or something you know if stephanie were to come in right at that same time like you need to relax okay that would not go over well speaking of that here’s what steph has done, drives me crazy in that same exact context joe steph will come out like oh this is all you got done yeah and it is like are you kidding me do you realize the five things that just went wrong over the past two hours so when you come in like oh i thought you had more done by now like that drives me nuts that sets me off okay so in that context your building is amazing like the stuff Stuff that you were able to create, absolutely amazing.

[26:34] However, when I am exhausted, stressed, dealing with crying babies, and you’ve been outside and I’m like, this is all you have done, I now see how that is like burning gasoline on you.
But I didn’t know. Okay. What do you do? But now.
Okay, I would ask you two, because you both do have bad tempers at times.
Like you don’t just like stay quiet and be like, take a deep breath. It’s going to be fine.
What is one of the worst things you guys think you’ve done to let your aggression out? I’d rather not disclose that on this podcast.
Yeah, I’d have to check statute of limitations with local law enforcement, probably.
Of course. I mean, the thing that comes to mind, again, I’m not proud of this, but when we were at our old house, I was trying to install a ceiling fan. Yeah.
And I couldn’t get it. And I ripped it out of the wall, walked it downstairs, and threw it out in the front yard.

[27:30] Okay i’ve never heard that story over that oh i chucked it in the front yard i was so mad like done it was like the griswold’s christmas vacation where he took that chainsaw to the post he’s like post is fixed that’s how i was yeah like i was i was so mad i remember walking out from the house again you’re doing something outside i come out to check on you to see how how you’re doing and all of a sudden i see it was a shovel just go flying like end over end across the yard and i’m like okay and i walked right back in the house i’m like and it’s not going well we’re not we’re not even talking at this point now it’s not a good time to check on you probably not good to say hey is this all you’ve got done okay another thing i’ve said that is not good when you’re giving me an earful in the past I have said are you done now are you finished oh that’s not good let me know you’re done I’m almost positive I’ve never said that my wife.

[28:40] Seriously man that’s you’re taking your life in your hands that he is wow that was not good not good another thing i’ve said is when stepho asked me a question do you like the way this looks anything like this and this happened it did you came home with your eyebrows done and joe okay at the place where you work yes they will test things on each other steph comes home and it It looked like they had drawn with a Sharpie new eyebrows on my wife.
It was awful. It was awful.
Same thing. Walks in and is like, who did this to you? Like that bad.

[29:19] We’ve been married over 10 years at this point. Yeah. So here’s the thing.
It was a brand new thing back in the day or when it first started.
So ladies, it’s called microblading.
And it’s basically like a semi tattoo.
So it makes your brows look fuller. All right. So our esthetician was getting trained by this woman who was supposed to be like the brow guru of this.
Y’all, she almost waxed my entire brows off. They were so swollen.
Then she did this like microblading technique. I was bleeding down my face.
My eyes were almost swollen because of how swollen my brow bone had been.
And then Kevin’s right. It looked like I had marker all over Sharpie.
And I look like Spock. Groucho Marx. Groucho Marx.
Yes, that’s who I look like. So I was freaking out. I’m like, Kevin’s not going to be happy.
He’s not going to be happy. Maybe he won’t notice. What do I tell you when people ask you, hey, can I try this on you?
Say no, you should not be the first one that they’re trying this on.
Do not be the first guinea pig. But that’s my job. No.
Yes, it is. Have someone else come. No, I really wanted it. Have someone else come and do it. I know, but I really wanted it. You should not be the first one.
I know, but I really wanted it. Should not be the first one.
So I had to go tell Kevin. So I remember being in the car and like…
Praying on the way home to see how you’re going to handle this.
So Groucho Marx walks in the kitchen.

[30:43] And I ask, what happened? Who did this to you? And you’re like, how does it look?
And I go on a scale of one to ten, how honest do you want me to be right now?
And that was not the answer. And you’re like, you just told me.
I didn’t tell you crap. and i’ve i’ve made that comment multiple times now and every time you do not like it when i say on a scale of one to ten how honest do you want me to be with you right now because i know then right that’s all he has to say yeah there’s no disclaimer there unless it’s bad exactly yeah.

[31:19] Exactly kevin you should have given her the the tommy boy you know not here not down here right right here that reminds me of the joke my buddy micah told me one time where a wife was getting ready in the bathroom looking in the mirror and she’s like oh my gosh i feel awful i feel like i look like a fat cow husband can you please give me a compliment and he goes well your eyesight’s perfect yeah if you like what you hear please tell someone about us as soon as this episode is over go tell your spouse your closest friend a parent a co-worker or share one of our posts on social media however if you don’t like what you’re hearing please do not don’t tell anyone don’t tell anyone don’t tell anybody just disregard this message don’t worry about it about us yeah go on with your merry day and to get more information about us or our entire catalog of episodes be sure to check us out at kevinandsteph.com thank you for listening to tell us a good story.

[32:22] All right, Steph. As I was editing this episode, I quickly realized we did not really end the conversation that we were having the other night with Jill.
We really didn’t. We kind of just stopped.
Like, just stopped talking. I tried to pivot the conversation to what is coming up on Tell Us a Good Story, and you weren’t having it. I was so tired. You were tired.
I think you were over my jokes and my stories.
I said, I remember saying, Steph, is there anything else you would like to share with our listeners? And you were like, nope.

[32:53] That’s it. We’re done. And so later we just ended it. Yeah. We didn’t wrap up the conversation at all.
We didn’t even say goodbye to Joe. Oh, we didn’t. But I quickly went and got my jammies on and went to bed.
And I was very happy about that. And you’re like, I’m done. I’m so tired.
We literally just ended it. And so as I was editing this, I realized we need to wrap this up somehow.
Yeah. So next week, Steph, I’m excited because it marks four years ago that we started Tell Us a Good Story.
Very first episode posted February 28th, 2020.
What’s crazy to think, and we’ve mentioned this before, it was literally right before things got shut down with COVID. Yeah, it was. Isn’t that crazy?
Four years ago, that’s happened.
Yeah. And people ask us all the time, hey, did you ever see this happening?
No. No. We didn’t see any of this. I didn’t know what the runway was going to be, how long we were going to be doing this.
The average podcast lasts, I believe it’s seven episodes.
So for this to be episode 205.

[33:52] A God thing. It’s kind of a rare area. Because Lord knows you and I couldn’t be doing this. Four years later, we’re doing this.
And Steph, the people we’re talking to is just incredible. Oh my gosh.
Unbelievable. You guys, some of the guests that we have coming up is just incredible.
And we’ve actually recorded the next four episodes already.
Which you know makes me happy. So we did a lot of episodes the last, what, three weeks, I would say. We’ve recorded a lot and just kind of banked them.
So next week’s episode is with Mac Brock.
Mac Brock is the co-founder.

[34:26] Elevation Worship with Pastor Stephen Furtick. So he was part of Elevation Worship for 10 years.
And now he records solo and he does a lot of music producing and writing.
Yeah, it was a really fun conversation.
But not only that, he is going to be in Ohio this weekend. Yes.
And what happened? He invited us to be his guest.
Yes, at the concert. I thought it was a concert. Yeah. But it is some type of festival.
And so we looked it up. We’re actually leaving tomorrow for this in Canton, Ohio.
And he’s leading worship, but it’s Craig Groeschel and Tim Tebow is speaking at this.
And Steph, he sent us tickets today.
And he said, hey, I’ll get you a note. We’ll call, whatever. Like very, very kind.
So nice of him. And we’re like, I don’t know what row we’re in, but we’re pretty darn close.
I’m so excited. We won’t be needing binoculars to watch this.
Well, obviously, I can tell that you did not pay for these tickets.
Or we would have needed binoculars.

[35:31] So that’s exciting. We’re going to get to meet him in person.
He said, hey, just text me when you get here. I want to meet you two.
And what are the odds that we could meet Craig Rochelle or Tim Tebow?
Yeah, I’m praying for that to happen. That would be amazing, you guys. Y’all, if that happens, you know, you’re going to hear all about it on the next podcast.
And Steph is going to give one of those humongous bear hugs.
Oh, you know, it’s happening.
Thankfully, those two dudes are muscular. Yeah. So they would be able to handle a bear hug from you.
Just you might have security step in and like, hey, lady, you can let go of them now.
I won’t even get to watch the show because I’ll be escorted out of the venue.

[36:08] Here’s this weirdo. But I got my hug in. It’s all that matters.
And I’ll tell you guys all about it. So, Mac Brock is next week. He is great.
Then we’ve got Riley Clemens.
Who is an just outstanding Nashville artist.
And she has been opening on the Zach Williams tour. And she has opened for a lot of different people.
And so she has some good stories as well. She’s down there in Nashville. And it was interesting.
She was discovered at a high school musical. A middle school musical.
Oh, this was a middle school? Yes, because she signed. She was the youngest to sign with this recording company at age like 14.
That’s crazy. Insane. So just like the most Nashville thing you would think of, right? It was Nashville.
And we joke with her like they teach math, science, and songwriting in their schools, right?
It was just very Nashville, but incredibly talented young artist.
I think she’s 23 or 24 now.
Then the following week, we have coach Brad Larson, the former head coach for the NHL hockey team here in Columbus, the Columbus Blue Jackets.
And he had some phenomenal stories, including, I think the first thing you asked him was, do you have your real teeth? Yes. Don’t tell him.
Don’t tell me. You can guess what the answer is. I mean, this dude is old school, but he played 13 seasons, professional hockey, and then he coached in professional hockey for 13 years as well.

[37:37] So then we have Morgan Klein, who’s the the founder of Burn Boot Camp, which has, I think, over 500 locations now in the United States and just growing.
She was awesome. And she talked about how, you know, just even the pressure of when you own a health and fitness type company to make sure you don’t get pictures taken of you and your car going through McDonald’s.

[38:03] Which is really funny. Yeah. Really funny. Especially when her husband’s got like their vehicle wrapped in.
Burboo camp. Burboo camp stuff. Yeah. So she had some good stories.
And then we haven’t had this conversation yet, but we’re scheduled to next week.
And it’s with another Ramsey personality, Dave Ramsey’s daughter, Rachel Cruz, who I believe, Steph, is getting ready to take over the company is what I have read.
I guess we’ll ask her about that. We will definitely ask her about that.
And what was it like being Dave Ramsey’s daughter? growing up.
Like what age did you start budgeting?
So she will be fantastic to talk to.
But Steph, anything else you would like to share with listeners here as we wrap up episode 205?

[38:45] Just y’all again, thank you for being on this journey.
We’re starting our fourth season. Starting our fifth season.
We’re starting our fifth season.
And we couldn’t do that without all you loyal listeners hanging in there, sharing us on social media and with your friends.
And we are just so thankful and grateful. And thank you for listeners as well, who have been sending me messages via social media or a website saying, hey, here would be somebody that would be good to talk to. So I’ve got a nice laundry list of people.
We’re booked out. Yes, we’re booked out about two months right now in advance, which is amazing.
But I have a nice laundry list of people to reach out to.
And a lot lot of it is from you listeners sharing names with me of somebody you just saw on TV, someone you heard speak at your corporation, someone you heard speak at your church.
So thank you for sending those in to us. And folks, keep us in prayer as we continue on Tell Us a Good Story and continue to find the right guests to talk to. I’m so excited.

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